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Amy Hunt - eBay Insights, Independent Thinking And Self Actualization

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Amy Hunt and I, had an insightful talk about the potential for eBay and the dropshipping sphere, what education needs for the future and the importance for out-of-box thinking. We've talked to a lot of great educators over the course of this saga and among the many lessons I learned in this episode, my greatest takeaway yet, has been learning about what makes each teacher distinct. An insight oftentimes as viable as the lessons themselves.

Amy Hunt has been making money online since 2003. She started learning drop shipping as well as reselling, branding, Amazon FBA and Shopify. She created a YouTube channel called Home Business Expert to teach you how to make & save money online, all while learning about the best product trends and deals.

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Amy Hunt: [00:00:00] The people that are listening to this podcast are those people that we talked about that have ventured outside the box. They're the few, like how many people think like that? How many people know about ali express? It's predicted that the sales are going to go up like three more billion dollars in the next year, year and a half online sales.

 Making a Shopify store. Doing ebay, doing anything online selling is going to be great.

Joseph: [00:00:34] You're listening to Ecomonics, a Debutify podcast. Your a resource for one of the kind of insights into the world of e-commerce and business in the modern age. This is Joseph. I'll be presenting a wealth of industry knowledge from interviews, with successful business people and our own state-of-the-art research. Your time is valuable so let's go.

Amy Hunt and I, had an insightful talk about the potential for eBay and the drop shipping sphere. What education needs for the future and the importance for out-of-box thinking. We've talked to a lot of great educators over the course of this saga and among the many lessons I learned in this episode, my greatest takeaway yet, has been learning about what makes each teacher distinct. An insight oftentimes as viable as the lessons themselves.

 Amy Hunt, it is great to have you here on Ecomonics. Uh, thank you for, for being here. Thank you for sharing some of your time with us. Uh, how you doing today? How you feeling? 

Amy Hunt: [00:01:29] Good. And how are you doing?

Joseph: [00:01:30] I'm doing pretty good. You know, overall in aggregate, in the interest of letting our listeners know, kind of like a little behind the scenes, uh, we were warned that the power was going to go out and then we're like, Oh, sorry, Amy. We're going to have to reschedule it a little bit later today. And then our, our automated system kept telling you a different time.

And so I'm like okay. 

Amy Hunt: [00:01:49] No problem. 

Joseph: [00:01:50] I have a bed to sleep in. I got food in the fridge. So, you know, we'll, we'll.

Amy Hunt: [00:01:54] It's good. It's all good. Right. We're here now. We're going forward. We're moving forward. 

Joseph: [00:01:59] I, uh, I have a very important question to, to start us off with, it's not only the same question on every episode of this show, but typically pretty much every interview podcast does this.

I see. I don't see any reason why we need to use this as our, as our time to stand out. Uh, well, that comes later. So Amy tell us, so who are you and what do you do? 

Amy Hunt: [00:02:18] So, I am Amy Hunt and I'm known as home business expert on my YouTube channel and across the websites that I have. And so. Who I am is I am a stay at home moms slash home business expert, which means I run my own businesses online. Well, I'm home, because I, uh, choose to be home.

Basically. I have a background in education, a master's actually. My background in coaching different sports. So this is something I love to do. I never projected myself to be doing something like this 20 years ago when I was going through college, prob this didn't even really exist. Um, but it just morphed into where I am today.

Joseph: [00:03:00] What college did you go to? 

Amy Hunt: [00:03:03] I went to Messiah college for my undergraduate and Marietta college for my graduate masters.

Joseph: [00:03:09] I was, I was wondering if it was a school that I had heard of. And in this particular case, I hadn't, it was, it was, it was worth a shot.

Amy Hunt: [00:03:15] Both are small private colleges. Messiah is a Christian college in Pennsylvania.

Marietta is a private college in Ohio.

Joseph: [00:03:24] I, I was, uh, I was born and raised Catholic. I went through the Catholic church and, um, I don't know. I here's a curiosity for you if the name Rob Fort to rings a bell? 

Amy Hunt: [00:03:34] No, it doesn't. 

Joseph: [00:03:34] Okay. I mean, he, he, he gained some notoriety even ended up on a Jimmy Kimble. He was, um, our mayor of Toronto.

Uh, he had, he had passed, uh, but he was like Donald Trump, but on a city-wide level, just like, uh, uh, one of a kind, uh, kind of guy, but he did, uh, he did pass away and I went to the high school that he was a, the coach for, and although it, it said it was a high school, a Catholic high school, the most Catholic thing about it was the people would wear the rosaries like a necklace.

And that was, that was, that was well, he had it, we had a chapel, we had a chapel and then one time for, for April, they put us all into the auditorium. And so we had to watch passionate of the Christ. Uh, well, they, they, they, they skipped to, you know, about our, I hesitate to say action sequence, but they skipped to the part very serious.

Yeah. 

Amy Hunt: [00:04:22] That's crazy. 

Joseph: [00:04:24] I want you guys to know what Jesus went through and then, well.

Amy Hunt: [00:04:27] Wow. 

Joseph: [00:04:27] We, we saw. 

Amy Hunt: [00:04:28] I guess it was impactful. 

Joseph: [00:04:29] Yeah. It's six of, well, I mean, that was the kind of thing people were impacted by it before the human side, it was like, this exists. Somebody committed it to film, rare chance to let that out of my system.

Uh, so I'd like to start with your tagline, which is a see you on the other side in a, what is the other side where people are not and how are they, how are they getting to the other side exactly?

Amy Hunt: [00:04:47] I guess all my life, since I was little, I've been taught to think independently. Um, in other words, not even necessarily on purpose, but just to think and create and be imaginative and, uh, be confident in what your thoughts are and stand for what you think and believe.

And then that was reaffirmed when I did go to Messiah and they really, one of the things I take away, which I'm not sure all schools do is teach you how to teach yourself and teach you how to think so you can teach yourself. And that was huge. Like, I know a lot of places just feed you, feed you, feed you.

But I felt like I had stuff put on the table in front of me and they said, figure it out. And from that point on, I have been teaching myself trying to figure it out. So, you know, the saying, you know, think outside the box. Well, most people are in the box. I was actually doing a one-on-one session yesterday with somebody and I was like, Everybody wants to do A, B and C now because everybody's watching A, B and C on YouTube.

So like everybody sees everybody's selling on Amazon. Everybody sees like the crazy growth and all these YouTube videos of everybody like nailing it and selling $10,000 a day and an eBay. And, um, whatever the popular stuff is, that's inside the box, even though that used to be outside the box. 

So in 2001, when I started or in 2003, when I started selling on Amazon at the time, that was thinking outside the box, because it was like, mostly, I don't know if you realize, or remember Amazon used to be mostly books and that's what Amazon was known for Amazon Kindles.

You'd get a Kindle so you can, you know, read your book. And so even then I was thinking outside the box, I was, I live near an outlet. Store complex. I would go over there. I would buy stuff from the stores really, really cheap. I would go home and I would list them on eBay. I would sell them on Amazon thinking outside the box.

So even today when I had my one-on-one session last night, I said, you've got to think outside the box. Um, the person I was doing, the, the one-on-one session with was like, where do I sell? How do I sell? How do I get started on like eBay? How do I start on Amazon? I'm like, first of all, I want to challenge your thinking and say, think outside the box.

And maybe you need to start thinking in the future, huge, or where should you be selling? What's going to grow in the future because eBay and Amazon are starting to be, I wouldn't say saturated. I think there's a ton of room for growth, but you might as well branch out and get those targeted areas that haven't been hit yet.

So what are those targeted areas? Well, that's thinking outside the box, you got to figure that out. So when I say see you on the other side, I just kind of. Added to the think outside the box. And I usually do an intro on my channel and then you'll see my box intro. And then the other side is outside the box.

So most people are inside the box thinking like everyone else see you on the other side is how do you think outside the box? So that's where I got that tagline. 

Joseph: [00:08:02] What I appreciate is that, um, the, the idea of, uh, independent thinking was instilled in you now, was this, was it your, your, your family? Was it your peers?

Was it school itself that, uh, had laid that idea out for you?

Amy Hunt: [00:08:17] I think primarily came from my family. My relatives are very imaginative in, I had, um, the niece of several inventors, like microchips and products. And so from the time I was little. Like that was sort of the norm, like, Oh yeah, he's inventing that.

And he's created that and they have a factory for his pro you know what I mean? So it was just like, okay, what can I think of for the future? What can I do? Uh, how can I do that? And it was always in the back of my mind, even when I was in college, getting my ma my, my degree, I was running a little business on the side, like nobody else was doing that.

I was, you know, creating products and selling clothes that the school didn't have and that people wanted. Uh, so basically you have to find where the, the need is or looked for where the need is and fulfill that need into people in people's lives. 

Joseph: [00:09:13] You know, what I think happens is, and I'm relating this to, to my experience because I.

You know, like 10, 10 years ago, when I was laid off from my sales job, I said that does it. I'm going to make up my own job out of thin air, which was podcasting. And although my, my, my routine listeners at this point, I'd be like, Oh, so if we, if we know, we know, you know, first time I got to talk to you. So you guys are just going to have to live with it, which is that it has manifested into what it is today.

And I'm really proud of that, but being young and it really helps to have at least one, uh, circle of influence to offer that, uh, alternate idea set, uh, because a lot of people, their parents will tell them to listen to what the teacher say in school. And then we have our, we have our little sparks in our own mind that are pushing us and driving us.

But if no one, um, helps to. Uh, encourage that or to show that it can turn into something down the line. Then a lot of times it gets lost. And I know a lot of people who, like they had artistic inclinations, they were creative thinkers, but they were never shown a path for it. And when I think the teaching here is, well, no, because there's not a path, that's not the point.

The point is you have to carve your own path for the first time. And so what you're saying is that things that used to be outside the box actually ended up becoming now within the box because the box gets bigger. So there's this constant drive to continue to build a larger path, create a bigger box, which I think would in the interest of finding a benefit to it, it creates more.

Um, opportunity for other people. So it creates more of a foundation and creates more of an industry. And then the people who continue to innovate continue to get outside of it again. So I don't know if it's maybe another, I was just thinking like the blob, the horrible, it just gets bigger and bigger and consumes things.

Amy Hunt: [00:10:59] Or maybe it's that little box inside the Amazon box, you know how the Amazon box stores are here and we're still stuck in the inside box. And most people that are like me, they're getting outside into the bigger Amazon box.

Joseph: [00:11:14] Yeah. I mean, I haven't ruled out the idea that, uh, at this point actually Amazon has created an entire like protective dome.

Amy Hunt: [00:11:21] Yes. Yeah. Yes. So I have a few thoughts on that. Um, and it's interesting you say that because a lot of my friends, I actually just had a friend last week say you are like five years ahead of everyone else. And I said, well, that's what I try to be in. You know the idea I was, we were, then I was talking again yesterday about Bitcoins by six years ago, I was telling people hesitantly because it was something nobody knew.

And it was like, I, you know, they look like I have to look at me. Like I have two heads when I spoke, what is a Bitcoin? And I would say, well, it's this mathematical formula that creates money. And they're like,  what? You're crazy. Right? And I said, well, you really should buy some. And it was $250 at the time. And now it's like 32,000 today.

They should have listened like most people. Uh, and, and I go back and I get frustrated with school systems at this point, like we're in the reservoir Roosevelt era era where we're industrializing everybody and we're still stuck in that era. And we need to be morphing in the education system. And especially with my teaching background, I get frustrated with this because there is so much information out there.

That the school systems and what you're learning or what you have learned, or everyone that's watching or listening to this or watching it, whatever the case may be. We've all been taught a, B, C one plus one equals two. Um, and to get outside of that, you're right. You need a support system. You need, um, re affirmation, you need something.

So what I did when I started to really get serious about, um, branching out and creating my own businesses and be an entrepreneur and that sort of thing, as I started reading books, and I'm going to tell you, it was like I read and I listened to Jim Roan. Kayasaki. Trump. I read their books, uh, the top in the business, you know, people that already.

Made the wheel and made the wheel work. Why reinvent it? You know, and the mindset that that taught me, uh, was critical. So for anybody that is listening, that doesn't have the support system people around, you think you're crazy. Hey, join the club. You know, you're in our club. Um, basically people like us, these entrepreneurs, I, you know, we work for, uh, product and sales.

Everybody else works for time. I don't know if that makes sense. So what I mean by that is somebody goes to work from nine to five. You work for time, we worked for the product sales. So it's a totally different mindset. It's a totally different way of thinking. Most everyone is been, you know, drilled into get your nine to five job, get your regular education.

I've seen a lot of people that. It's interesting over the years and decades that they went a different path and everybody else thought they were a little bit crazy because they weren't getting their college education and they're going into the trade world. And now these are the guys out doing motivational speaking, they run their own businesses.

They're the ones that are having their boats out in the ocean. Like these are the guys that are like, they get it, like, because they created their own path. So I would encourage anybody that's like listening and they really want to do their own thing. That it's it's. They're like now is the time there is so much information out online that you don't need to go to college.

I hate to say that, but college is important. I'm not saying it's not, there's a lot to be learned and there's a lot of paths and avenues that people need to take college to get to. We need those people, but if you're not that kind of person, you're not the college book kind of person, don't be afraid to branch out and get educated in another way.

It doesn't have to be the traditional. So I do have that frustration too, that you talked about, and that's kind of where I was, where I am in. And I always am looking to learn more like, um, you had mentioned earlier about, you know, just being stagnant. I, I hardly ever just sit down and watch a movie. Like when people say, well, this person, so I didn't know the guy you're talking about.

I don't watch the news much. I don't sit down and watch, um, TV shows, movies. Partly it's my personality, but partly I constantly want to learn if I wasn't that way, I wouldn't be here on the podcast with you. So it's a constant teacher yourself, and it goes back to the first thing we talked about, teach yourself.

Don't be afraid to independently think, and don't be spoonfed, everything. 

Joseph: [00:16:05] That's fantastic. And one thing I will say is that I do, I make time to watch TV. I make time to play games. I'm, I'm a pretty passionate nerd. And so I, I wouldn't want anybody to think that, Oh no, my whole life as a disaster. Ooh, one division.

No. I mean, okay. People have different ways of doing this and, um, well, I, I certainly feel like I, I can stand to like cut down on, on, on that time, but even being, even having the, uh, the episodes of laziness that I do, you know, I made it to where I made it to. So we have different, um, You know, we have, we have different pathways and we have people have different things that they can do.

Amy Hunt: [00:16:43] Um, I don't want to demean what you're doing. Um, but if you're starting off and you don't know how to do what you're doing and you go watch a TV show instead of teach or learn, you're not going to get where you want it, want it to be. You had to learn at some point what to do, or at least experiment or go out and do it.

A lot of people just think it's going to happen and they just go watch their TV show. That's really what I'm saying. I'm a big gamer too, actually. Um, actually I'd rather sit and play a game than watch TV show. That's the truth. The truth behind the previous statements. Um, I do game a lot, but I'm sure I tweet, we all need to relax and we all need to have that downtime for sure.

Joseph: [00:17:26] I, I will say without, uh, having said that I was wondering, so are you really a dynamo? Whereas just like, you know, morning tonight is like it's sending material and learning and, and then, uh, being with the kids. So, yeah. 

Amy Hunt: [00:17:39] Uh, I think that's my, that is my tendency, but.

Joseph: [00:17:42] You're, you're playing, uh, uh, I'm taking a guess cause of your YouTube, but are you playing Fortnite right now? 

Amy Hunt: [00:17:47] Yes, not very at the moment, but before I got on the podcast, I was.

Joseph: [00:17:53] Okay.

Fair enough. I, um, there's a, there's a, there's a part of me that's tempted to, re-install it. Just to show you how good I am at, uh, building towers, right? I, I was off it for a year. Okay. Anyways, so I wanted to, I wanted to offer another thought, uh, onto this, uh, this thread that we've been, uh, unfolding. One of the issues that I had when I was, uh, was younger is, you know, I would complain a lot about going to school.

I didn't like it very much. And my dad would say, uh, similar to what you're saying here, which is you're learning how to learn. And I thought that was just my dad being dismissive so that I could just, so I would leave him alone. I learned to do what I'm doing today. And I did some, I did a lot of animation when I was a kid.

And the thing that's really important, uh, that I really want to add to this is that if we don't necessarily have like a support network, What you need is a way to produce the results, even if they're small results. Even if you just get like a, you know, a top five animation of the day award something to start building that foundation of.

If I do things my way, I can actually produce a results. And so now, and that was something that I was really fortunate to have. Uh, there, there is a website. It's it can get rather, uh, violent at time it was called newgrounds.com and people would just make their flash animations uploaded for free people would vote.

And you'd be rewarded if, you know, if people liked your content and building a fan base. And a couple of the people that I connected through, there are some of my friends to this day. So even just like these, these rinky-dink cartoons that look a Bismal too, by any standards, even back then, it still was enough to actually start giving me something to start putting my life together.

Amy Hunt: [00:19:28] That's great. And there's, there's where you put time and effort.

Joseph: [00:19:31] If I can throw it to you in a form of a question. Um, can you think back to, like, what were some of the earliest yields for your, uh, for your independent path? 

Amy Hunt: [00:19:40] I would say the earliest earliest was when we had a garden when I was like elementary school. And I remember asking my mom, can we sell some tomatoes?

Can we sell some cucumbers? And I put them at the end of the driveway. And I remember showing up at the end of the day and going out there to check on them and there'd be money in there. Like in the little box that we put. So I was like, that's really cool. I made money. Otherwise I wouldn't be money anywhere.

Um, I didn't, you know, I was a little kid and, you know, a dollar back then was like probably 50 now know with inflation. Um, so that's my first memory of that sort of thing. And then just along the way, we created a family business that was just like our crafts and stuff. Just, I think our parents just did it for fun.

Um, just to get a little extra money. Uh, we had puppies back when I was little and I saw the rewards from that and, you know, the money that came in from doing that and just that kind of sale. And then I continued it once I went to college with this little side business selling clothes, um, honestly was not nothing I ever thought I would go into, but when I had my daughter, she was born with a disease and I kind of needed to stay home because I wanted to make sure she was taken care of.

Right. And I just kind of out of boredom and kind of out of  necessity, I would go to the outlets and start buying products and selling them. Cause it was kind of what I was used to from all these years. So that's kind of my journey. It was just like these small bits and pieces of information along the way.

It wasn't always affirmation. Sometimes I couldn't sell something or I didn't make money on it or every once in a while I lost, but not too often. Um, but that was the affirmation I had. So it was just, you know, when I started doing YouTube, it just seemed like I'm home and this is something cool to do. I really liked the technology and I'm a teacher, so I really want to teach people something.

And then I kind of put everything together and that's how I came into the home business because that's what I've done. Uh, and then I just taught people what I was doing to save money and make money online. So. It's just grown into this really big, um, to do, I guess at this point. And, uh, I just enjoy it. I have a lot of fun with it.

Uh, teaching is my thing, and I think I'm able to break things down where people can follow along from beginner to expert. 

Joseph: [00:22:10] Yeah. One of the things I saw on your YouTube is, um, your lessons were numbered. So I think one thing that's helpful there is that if somebody jumps into a YouTube channel and they see a bunch of different titles and they think, Ooh, hang on a second.

Where do I start? So one of the, so that to me seems like something that's very distinctively, a teacher move where, okay, we have this structure. So this is the beginning point. And then, so if you're less than 52, maybe you want to go back for, Oh, I don't know all the way to one, if you don't mind. 

Amy Hunt: [00:22:36] So I was, when I start my courses or I start a series or something it's called backward building.

So my first question is what do I want them to learn? And I work backwards actually. And I create the, the main points. And then I build down from that. I don't know if that makes sense or not, but that's how I do it.

Joseph: [00:22:56] I hear that. And I thought of a reverse engineering, which I understand to be something that a lot of inventive people do.

Yeah. 

Amy Hunt: [00:23:02] So that's how I do it

Joseph: [00:23:12] Out of everything that we've unfolded so far. Technically you answered question three, uh, which is, you know, um, how you got into e-commerce. We basically covered that one, but, uh, this is always my favorite whenever we're like, you know, 25 minutes and I haven't even gotten to like, A quarter through the questions.

That's always my favorite. Like, I love that. And in continuing on with that, so I have this, um, I have my own view of like what I would like to see, uh, happen to the school system. And you obviously having such a, um, such a wealth of experience in that and your master's degree, this would be, I would love to hear your take on it.

Let me, let me set the stage. So my father and my mother would describe what happened when they were at school. And I think they were in portables and they were being taught by nuns and they had the nuns had sticks and there was physical abuse. And I will say my parents started out pretty good. Yeah. Uh, so, you know, credit credit where it's due.

My, my, my parents took very good care of me and I'm, and I, and I wouldn't trade them for any one else in the world. Uh, it wasn't even not even close calls. And then I go to, uh, my, my, my school experience and my big thing is that, like I had so many people who didn't like me and that, and I've kept feeling like the school would get them into even more trouble if I stood up to them.

So I would just. You know, sit there and just kinda like take it and wait for the day to be over. And I very, very few takeaways from elementary school in terms of like what I learned, like I remember to, so we did sewing at our class wise, let me go. Well, I remember saying, yeah, and it got me thinking, you know, over the course of life is like, what would I want my kids to have as their school experience in the interest of making it better for them the same way my parents made a better for me.

Um, and my thought is I think the first, the biggest problem is the idea that it has to be done in a set amount of time where the kids have to head into the school. And now it is important that in your formative years, you do have to take advantage of those. It's like, it's like this crunch where you have to get your, your, your, your education year after year after year and no breaks.

And then people read it the school and then think, well, that's it. My learning is over now. I'm off to the workforce. And I just don't think that makes sense as really anybody who's, uh, in, in your position or. Of all the other people that I've talked to is a lifelong pursuit. And so what I would like to see is a school system where the grading system is still there.

That'll, part's fine. But people would just go to classes whenever they want. It's more of a voluntary thing where imagine I like, Oh, you know what, I want to apply for this job. But my math is counting with my fingers. Yeah. My math is terrible. So I go take, I sign up for math classes and I'm in a math class and there's people older than me.

People younger than me, immigrants, you know, people were just like learning the very basics. And you walk away with this experience that you get to hear from so many other people and you connect in a different way as opposed to being stuck with the same people year after year after year is, which for me was really hard because I didn't like them.

I like, I have a few good friends from there, but yeah. Um, so, so overall the, just to sum it up is. Could it work a lot better if education was a lifelong pursuit and we let people more voluntarily, uh, handle their education rather than the regimented system that we have. 

Amy Hunt: [00:26:26] So, uh, I'll address one thing that you said that sticks out to me is that you've come away with a few friends from there, from, and I think the fallacy is that everybody has a lot of friends and I always tell my kids and I tell people, I know if you come away from high school, middle school with one good friend, you're good because that one good friend will get you through a lot.

And I mean, good. Um, so if you've got a few, I think that's great. Um, and I think it's not every, and I don't think if you check back not everybody's friends with everybody, there's the very few that are. So I think they're the, their exception for the rule. And you're the norm actually. So there's a thought for you.

Remind me again, like, I guess I don't know that I totally agree with you because of all the research that I know and the psychology behind teaching and learning, um, as far as being ambiguous with people showing up, whenever I can tell you, from my perspective as a teacher, I would, my brain would want to blow up.

If people just came and left and didn't show up one day and came another day. Cause there's no continuity. Uh, as a teacher, you don't know who's got what, and who's been where, and, and that's so inconsistent in there. You're not, you're not teaching, um, consistency. And what you want in a person is. You know, you know, dependability, you know, if they're working somewhere, like I depend on you to show up at the podcast at the time.

And, uh, I honestly, I know a couple people that attended a school similar to what you just described. It did not go so well for them because they don't care. You know, they have this mentality of not really caring about going to work or moving on and learning. So they've been, it was drilled in them when they were younger that, yeah, whatever, and that's still their mentality today.

And it was, um, uh, really sad to see the potential loss and it's just, you know, they could have done better had they had structure. And whenever you, uh, open the boundaries with kids, especially, I know if I didn't have structure when I was little, I probably wouldn't be where I am now, who knows what I would be doing because.

Um, w you know, we're innately sinful and kind of crazy when we're younger and we have to be taught and part of education, my son keeps complaining, cause he's in algebra. He's like, why do I, why am I going to need trig? And all this, that's the age old question. Right? And maybe I'll help answer that for some people.

I tell them, I said it, isn't the fact that you're going to go to a job and you're going to sit down and write down a tricky equation in your future. Okay. I get it. But what it's doing is developing your brain. It's developing your thought process. It's challenging you to think, and it's helping test your perseverance through difficult.

And problematic thinking. So it's really a thinking thing to me. I mean, some people are going to go into trig and that's going to be their thing. Yes. Majority of people aren't, um, actually my major touched on calculus and trig after I'd had asked that question high school. Um, but, and I didn't know it, but it, it taught you to, uh, it teaches you to think, and we need thinkers in this society, not robots that just go about doing everything they're told to do.

And the people that learn to think you're going to be able to fix your own computer at home and not want to throw it on the floor. I mean, I still want to throw mine on the floor sometimes, but you know what I mean? You're, you're going to be able to think through those processes. And hopefully what I would like to see is almost like a melding or merging of new thinking and old.

Or let's say new technology and old thinking, let's put it that way because what's taught in the formal education and the information that's there is good, but we need to integrate the technology and we need to integrate all the new stuff. Like it's going to lighten so lightening fast, and here's the problem.

Anybody that's out in the world doing what I'm doing right now, isn't in a school teaching it, they're online teaching it. Right. Cause I don't need to go get a job and go teach it. However, it's a funny, I mentioned this because my daughter is actually going into a marketing and web design class. And uh, I think it's great.

Cause they have pull-out schools I'll call them or, you know, additional to. Regular education high school, where I think that's where it's at anymore. Like learning web design and programming and whatever else, uh, you know, specific things that are technology targeted, you know, um, like it's called career tech here.

So like a technical school. Um, that's kind of where, what we're talking about is in my opinion, so. That's the new morph maybe.

Joseph: [00:31:33] But you, you raised a lot of good points and I'm, and I'm glad I was able to bring my idea to someone with your, uh, expertise on it. Cause it's important to figure out what the holes are and it turns out it's Swiss cheese.

So that's all well and good. Um, one thing I did want to clarify though, um, it's just like a micro variable is people choosing to take classes, but I, I would still want there to be like a commitment level where once they sign up for it, they are going to stick to it. But overall, what it does is by not compelling people to be committed to the same way that the school system compels people now that can, uh, yield a negative results and you have tangible examples to point to, to have schools that are like that.

Uh, so it's left me with a lot to think about, and, and I think it's important too, is that that structure, uh, is, you know, the reason why we have it is because we need it. Like you're saying we're all. Nuts, especially when we're kids. And so I guess for me being such an anomaly, I think about how I've gotten to where I am, and I'm in a lot of that had to do with the freedom to teach myself on my own time and go online and, and develop skills outside of school skills, which actually helped me survive school better.

Like I took with the animation that I learned, went to school with it and, uh, and it was, I was able to do presentations. So I was using my skills and I was testing them in school rather than learning them in school and testing them in the, in the real world. So, you know, I I'll I'll leave it at that, but there, there was definitely a lot there to think about.

So yeah, I thank you for that.

Amy Hunt: [00:33:01] Yeah. And you know, part of what you're describing is college or community college, because you get to pick what courses you get to pick what you want to do. You can show up or not show up. I mean, it's, you're paying for not getting educated that, but so it's college has. A lot of those characteristics that you just described, you show up, you don't show up, you know, it's, it's up to you, but, uh, that's a lot of those characteristics.

Joseph: [00:33:35] Alright, Amy. So, uh, we're gonna, we're gonna shift gears because I definitely want to get, um, your, your eBay experience, uh, in this episode as well. We don't talk about eBay, like all that much. This is Shopify country, but whenever we have the opportunity to hear about the other avenues, we take it. You offer a, that, that route of drop shipping on eBay with AMC scout and a DSM tool.

Uh, there's a few things, a breakdown. And I know that we alluded earlier that like the situation, it might be a bit on the saturated side, so we can definitely like retouch on that point. But what edge does someone gain, uh, going to the eBay route as like, maybe like their primary focus for, for e-commerce and for drop shipping.

Amy Hunt: [00:34:13] Whenever I talk to people and they're just starting, I usually tell them to go E-bay first, because you get your hands in in the industry, you know, you get your feet wet and it's not so strict. It's not as hard to get in there and start working and make mistakes. So Amazon is like a bigger beast, a lot more strict it's best.

If you have like a business name, a business number. So. I point people and direct them towards eBay because of those reasons and kind of get some experience and then shift theirs, their selling experience into Amazon. And, you know, for your case, uh, Shopify, you know, those are all a little bit more heavily experienced people it's not necessary.

I mean, they could start anywhere. It's just, again, goes back to that person's drive and how much they want to learn and how much they can independently do their own thing.

Joseph: [00:35:10] Okay. I, I think I understand this. So if we look at, um, selling on Shopify, um, now mind you, again, being a, being a different case, being brought on to day beautify, I've definitely have like, you know, an above average amount of resources at my disposal to do it.

So. It was, it is easier for me than the average person to hop on the Shopify and get started. Uh, so with that, granted, what I'm understanding is with eBay is that the individual is just focused on selling. Whereas if I go into Shopify, I also have to really think about branding and I have to think about a copy and I have to use, uh, develop several apps.

Uh, and I need there's, there's advertising involved putting ads on the Facebook, uh, there's remarketing, uh, affiliate marketing. There's there's a lot. And, you know, we've, we're like, I think like 60 episodes in, so we've definitely covered a lot of this. And whereas, so with eBay, it seems to me that the starter kit is actually just like signing up for an account, picking the product.

And then, I mean, at that point, how do you, how, how are people competing or people just like. Looking up the product and it just happens. They'll find yours or a, what are people doing to actually like get themselves more exposure than the next person? 

Amy Hunt: [00:36:20] So originally when I started, I would go through actual newspapers, flyers on Sunday nights, I would get the newspaper and I'd find products that were on sale for the week.

I would list those products. I would drop ship them from like, K-Mart Walmart, wherever there wasn't much competition, nobody was really doing it. I would usually just usually sell whatever I listed today. I mean, it's, it's turned into a lot of software that helps you target products that based on metrics and analytics and everything that goes on behind the scenes they've scenes, they figure out exactly what's selling for how much.

So you can, you can do what I did still and, and put those products in and get the chance that you'll sell them with a little bit of research on what's selling on eBay. So it's gone from a shot in the dark to pinpointing things with software. My original way was a shot in the dark, just guessing with less competition though, today it's pinpointing products that are actually selling for this amount, and this is how much you should sell it for in order to make this profit.

So is it, is it doable? Absolutely. People are doing it every day. Um, I, at one point I sold between 500 and a thousand dollars per day, uh, drop shipping onto eBay. So can you do it? Yes. Uh, does it take a little bit of work? Yes. But is it hard work? No. Uh, it's just a matter of learning how to do it. Applying those products into your eBay store.

And I mean, that's the simple answer. There are little steps you have to take to set your store up, but it's not hard, not like Shopify where you're increasing, you know, and, but you know, you reap what you, so once you have your Shopify store, then it's all your product and all your profit. You're not giving it to eBay.

You're not giving it to Amazon. So that's the appeal to me with setting up my Shopify store. That's why I set one up because I want my own thing. I don't want to have to give a percentage to anyone else. I want to take the profits that are truly mine and keep them right. 

Joseph: [00:38:34] Yeah. Cause E-bay would get a cut of their selves, uh, which is how, whereas Shopify, you, you pay them to, to use a service altogether.

And then after that, it's, uh, it's all up to you. So you, you you're now this is the first time that anyone has like. You mentioned that they would drop ship by way of, uh, going to retail stores, like going into Walmart or Kmart. Uh, can we just like stop there for a second? Um, so somebody orders something on eBay and then like, are you driving?

Like, I mean, I'm just trying to think of how you getting the product, uh, from Walmart or did you already buy it and then you're selling?

Amy Hunt: [00:39:09] Let's just talk about that would be baby steps. Like that would be the original way back in 2001, when I started, I would actually have a product and then I would sell it or I would not like sell it.

If I knew it was there now drop shipping is I would go to the website, Kmart and order it. And ship it, put the ship to address of the person that bought it. So that's drop shipping, right. 

Joseph: [00:39:33] Because these guys had their online platforms. 

Amy Hunt: [00:39:37] Yeah. And so they would do all the shipping. I just basically, I'm the order processor.

If you want to call it, what do you want to call it that, but they termed it a drop-shipper.

Joseph: [00:39:48] And w so I I'm, I'm explaining to a couple of my friends, you know, they asked me, Hey, Joseph, what are you doing these days? I'm like, well, here we go. And so w one of the things that they ask us, well, hold on a second.

Why don't I just go to like Ali express and buy the product without having to buy it on Shopify? And I said, that's actually a very good point, frankly, I'd done that to the, uh, for our listeners where we're making our way towards video. We're not there yet, but, um, I'm wearing these a compression gloves that help, uh, reduce arthritis.

Uh, you know, at least fingers crossed and I paid like 20 bucks for them. Well, I found, I just found them on AliExpress, like last week, because another guest was talking about them. They they're like three bucks. So I ordered one for 20 bucks worth. And now I'm set for like the next 10 years. So what I tell them is that the reason why you're paying me is because I'm doing the marketing.

I'm almost like shopping on your behalf. I am finding what works for you. I am advertising as you can see it, and I'm doing it at scale. So lots of people can see it at the same time. I'm been doing you a favor by introducing this product to you for the first time. And so it's almost like you're, you're, you're paying, you're compensating me for that.

Now, if people are intuitive enough and they go onto Ali express and every time they see a product online, Well, okay. They're not, they're not our target audience anymore, or they're not the market anymore. There, there are, there are listeners, there are people who I'll probably be interviewing. They're the people who were like more adept at it.

Um, so comparing that to eBay, I guess I just want to make sure I'm understanding this. So essentially someone just is just looking for what they're looking for on eBay, because the product happens to already be a somewhat unknown it's on sale, or if you're seeing it on your newspaper, then other people are seeing it on theirs.

And so then they're, they're just ordering it from, from the, from, from you and then you're ordering from them. I got it. Right. Did I miss any key details here? 

Amy Hunt: [00:41:34] I don't think so. I think it goes back to brand commitment too. Like there are eBay. There's people that buy on eBay and then there's people that buy on Amazon and it's time saving it's brain.

Uh, I affirmation, like I I've done this before. I know if I do this, it's going to be okay. They started with Amazon. That's what they're used to. That's what they stick with. Same thing for eBay, blah, blah, blah. Then there's the venture people. Oh, that looks neat and new. And Ooh, I saw that ad and they, you know, spontaneously click and buy something.

They never thought they were going to buy because they saw an ad. Um, interestingly about express, I honestly munch today. I sent my friend a link of a video I did on ali express because her daughter wanted to know where my son got his really, really expensive sneakers. And I just laugh because she asked me the other day, Oh, Mia wants his sneakers so bad.

And, and, uh, my, but I just can't pay that much. I laughed. I said, you think I really paid what Dick's is asking for them. And, um, and she's like, what do you mean? So I S I pointed her out to ali express, and I think the deal is, I know the people that are listening to this podcast or those people that we talked about that have ventured outside the box.

They're the few, like how many people think like that? How many people know about ali express? Probably 1% of the population. If that, I wouldn't even say it's that high, at least where I am and the people I know personally in the normal world, I would not call where we are in the normal world. Um, we venture out, we think outside the box, ali expresses outside the box.

Uh, Shopify is outside the box, um, and it's creating your own thing. So that's why eBay works. That's why a Shopify store works because people are branded basically. And they're used to that. You see, if you see a Nike sneaker on a shelf, you go into the store, it's $150. You see that same Nike sneaker next to it looks exactly the same.

Seems to be the same. You touch it. Same color, same everything. But it says ho Joe sneakers next to it. They're both $150. Which one are you going to buy? Yeah, they're both $150 Nike. Yeah, neither. Neither. Yeah. Okay. I got to get what you're saying. Like, uh, yeah, the brand is what you're buying. So, you know, creating a brand on Shopify is.

Fantastic. Um, but that's, that's the discrepancy there. 

Joseph: [00:44:28] Uh, how far can somebody get with a brand on eBay? Is there any room for, for branding or personalization? 

Amy Hunt: [00:44:34] Oh yeah. Um, you can make your own stores and create your own thing. Yeah. So it's, so people can come back to you and you can have like people click on your name and your, your store name and you can go see all your products.

Joseph: [00:44:48] I'm going to say, this is the first time. The, and again, I can't reiterate enough how, like, you know, uh, distinct in my own pathway has been. Um, so it's very rare that I would cause people to take after my example, but it seems to me that one of the main advantages of eBay is to build that early in muscle memory for like actually learning how to like sell a product.

Get it to a customer and make sure that they're, they're happy. It's the, some of the, some of the earliest motions and some of the earliest for people who've never sold anything in their life. Um, before they go hop on the Shopify and they have to run a whole store and they have to come up with a whole image and they also have to learn how to actually do the physical selling, that can be a lot more and that can end up overwhelming a lot of people.

So, uh, I think there's a lot of value to that. 

Amy Hunt: [00:45:38] Yeah. Starting with eBay is a great place to start. Uh, I've been in Shopify. I have my own store and what I've, what I knew from eBay is what I have and learned over the many years of doing it. I think the critical thing would be tags and SEO search engine optimization, critical in having your products be found without trying to market every single thing, which, you know, marketing is a whole other part of.

You know what Shopify is about. If you're a good marketer, you're going to sell your product and you have to know your audience and you have to know, you know, who you're targeting and that sort of thing. So, you know, those points are critical, uh, getting started, but you can start. I mean, you got to start somewhere.

That's when I did a webinar, uh, two weeks ago, and one of my images on my webinar, my screen on my presentation was a car and a guy in the parking lot. And there was one car movie in that parking lot. Parking lot was filled with, uh, cars, maybe like an airport or something. One car was moving and that's what I was encouraging people to do.

Don't only just like, get the key, sit in the driver's seat and turn the engine on, like put it in gear and push the gas, be that one car that actually starts and goes and moves and does something. So that was my encouragement. People listening to this right now. Be that car that's moving in the parking lot.

Like do something about why you're here, you're here because you have an interest you want to do something different. Uh, you know, where you are is like the parked car in the parking lot. It's not going anywhere. Um, get in that car and do something, move around, go for it. Take that step. I support that a hundred percent.

Joseph: [00:47:26] And just alluding back to the story that I told earlier when I lost my, uh, my sales job and said, I'm just going to make up podcasting. Is that from that day going forward, I treated it like I was a professional wasn't making money. No. Was I breaking even no. Was I spending money to do it? Yeah, loads empty my savings to a, to, to pursue it at that time, at least as good as I could do professional quality.

And I think one thing that happens is this idea that becoming a professional is this impenetrable barrier, or like, I have to get a certain credentials before I can be considered a professional. And like, you know, this might end up being Swiss cheese, but I think the real, the difference between like an amateur and a professional is that you can't tell when a professional is having a panic attack.

Amy Hunt: [00:48:09] It's so true. It's funny. Cause the other week I wasn't feeling too well when I did my webinar and the, and uh, the person I was working with, email me back and she's like, Well, you were very professional because I couldn't tell you weren't feeling well. And I'm like, that's right. You know, you learned how to do that.

Joseph: [00:48:24] I'm on day 4 of, uh, my current panic attack and yeah, so far so good looking good.

Amy Hunt: [00:48:32] Sounding good too. Right. 

Joseph: [00:48:34] Thankfully I sound good. Sometimes my voice it gets shot. So whenever I have like a 7:00 PM interview, I'm like, Oh, okay. Oh, I'll get back to Ecomonics. So listeners, you can point out if you can point out which episodes I sound like that feel free to let me know. I got, I got one more AB question, but this is, I guess, more out of curiosity than anything, but like having, um, participated in it for the length of time that you had.

Did you notice any like, like major shifts in the way people perceived E-bay or if any major operational shifts or like any major milestones for it? And just to give you a chance to like stew that I'll, I'll make a comparison to, it was like Facebook, for instance, I remember once upon a time at Facebook messenger was like, Kind of like emailing where we would just say, Hey man, it's great to connect with you.

Let's catch up some time. Yeah. Yeah, totally. But the idea of like actually chatting with people wasn't conveyed Facebook has undergone some pretty significant changes, even as far as like last week. So structurally it's not the same place I'm wondering along those lines. Have you observed anything about eBay?

Amy Hunt: [00:49:33] Oh yeah. Um, EBay was very laissez Faire in there in the beginning. Like almost anything goes anybody could sell. I think they just wanted people on there and it didn't have a great reputation. Things are cheap. You might've gotten a bad product. And it has shifted over the years to people doing what I'm doing, like drop shipping a lot of products.

So you don't know where it's coming from now. It's not necessarily originally eBay was like the auction place and primarily auction and people didn't even really know what buy it now was or reserve price and that sort of thing. Now it's like major, major dropshipping and stores and it's turning similar to Amazon.

I remember having a conversation with somebody I know saying, well, why don't you get it on eBay? And they're like, Oh no, I buy on Amazon. Like, like it was like the Amazon people and the eBay people. I was. On eBay. I was on both selling, but I could see the difference in the buyers. People on Amazon would rather pay a little bit more and get their product fast and get a better product.

And it could, or it could have been even the same product, but they knew the quality of the shipping and the, uh, customer service that Amazon got. eBay didn't have such a reputation. Now in the last, I would say eight, eight years, eight, five to eight years. Things have drastically changed in eBay. They're a little tighter.

Their restrictions are more, they kick people off more often. Uh, this one time. This was about four years ago. I was, and I had been on for what would be like 15 years selling on eBay. I had this one product, I listed 50 of them by accident. And I only had five, so I accidentally hit a zero. It didn't realize it.

And I was sitting and watching a movie and I hear teaching to chain. So that's my sound. When I sell something on eBay and my notification and it kept going to change and I was like, what is going? My phone is broken. What is going on? I was going to ignore it because I just wanted to watch a movie, which I don't usually.

And I looked down and here I'd sold like 15 of those things that I had just listed like an hour ago. And I'm like, I only have five. So, um, and, um, this is to the point of eBay becoming more strict. They shut my account. They like reduced my account to like $500 worth of products and four products a month.

And I was like, Holy smokes. Your restrictions are horrible because I've been on your 15 years, I made a one typo mistake. And so, yes, they've gotten tighter with who's selling because their reputation wasn't what Amazon's was. And they're trying to, I think, bring that up to similar status in the long run.

Amazon may be better off because they have that leniency of auctions and lower prices and that sort of thing. One little tidbit that I don't think people even realize about Amazon. You don't always want to buy the first product that you see, because those are the higher priced products. And they're the ones that won the buy box, which means basically, you know, they've put ads out and they're paying for it.

And they're usually the more expensive products. If you click down, you may find, and there's a tiny little bar that most people don't know to click on. You're going to find a list of maybe 10 other sellers on there that might have it for cheaper. So that's a little purchasing, a tidbit and advice, but you know, there's a lot of leniency in eBay.

eBay's restrictions have come up. So their product sales and stuff have kind of gotten better quality. Um, so they're trying to compete. Obviously you've got to do something too. Everybody's trying to do something to compete with Amazon at this point. And I wouldn't say like, to a point we were talking about earlier selling on Amazon and eBay, it's not saturated.

It's just more so than it was in the past. The room for growth is in the billions of dollars. It's predicted that the sales are going to go up like three more billion dollars in the next year, year and a half online sales. So is it like saturated and you can't sell anything? No, no way. You know, so that's why making a Shopify store doing eBay doing, am I doing anything online?

Selling is going to be great because us, the 1% or less that are outside the box are the ones making and making those sales in the millions and billions. It is in the billions of dollars of sales. online. 

Joseph: [00:54:12] You know, whenever I, I, we hear the word saturated, there's always like a counter weight to that, which as well, even products that are like are, are considered highly saturated.

Usually what happens is you gave it like six months and then, you know, people have kind of like moved on and then you can just re-introduce it. So, uh, that, that, I think that particular term is way more prohibitive than, um, than it actually is. So it was just something to keep in mind as well. 

Um, so Amy we're, uh, we're, we're pretty low on time.

Cause I know I don't have you forever. I, this one was like one thing I wanted to just kind of like, make sure I. I understood it correctly and everything, uh, is a slight gearshift. So in your description, you talk about not just how to make money, but also to save money online. And I just want, like it's saving money in relation to e-commerce or how people can like spend their money online more effectively, or is it just like getting into Roth IRAs?

Cause we've had a couple of people talk about IRAs already.

Amy Hunt: [00:55:06] Well, yes. And yes, to the first two. Save money, as you are doing your e-commerce and bought a purchasing. Like for instance, when I was on Facebook, I saw an ad for the snow shoes. They were like a snow ski shoes. Like you can ski down the mountain. They were only like a foot and a half long.

The Facebook ad was the product was $150 on sale for 125. And I was like, Oh, I know where I can look for that right there. That's the save money. You don't want to go buy that stuff. I went on alley express and I actually bought them for $27. I mean, so I teach you that kind of stuff on my channel. The other part is like what I mentioned earlier, like if you're a drop shipper and you're drop shipping, then you should get on a cashback website order your drop shipping stuff.

So for instance, if you sell something on home Depot, you've listed an item. Let's just say, it's a generator. You put it on eBay, you sold it. You don't just go back to home Depot and order that product. You go into be frugal, we're acute and a honey. Those are the websites I teach you how to make better use of your money by getting cash back.

And then you. Add a credit card that gives you points. Like at the end of the year, like November, December I cash in on my points, on my credit cards that I've spent on drop shipping and doing products that I sell resell and stuff. And that's where I get gift cards to buy Christmas presents. Like, so Christmas presents are free.

The Bose headsets canceling a noise canceling headset. I think I paid $40 for them after I cashed out on some of my gift cards. Like it's just using your money smarter, really. Um, so those types of things I teach on my channel.

Joseph: [00:56:55] That's uh, that's insightful for sure.

 I mean, I've got honey so far, but a beef burger and Rakuten new news to me.

So I'll say that and yeah, it's just, you know, it's going to help people with their bottom line, so they don't feel the sting as much whenever they look and they see that they're Shopify. Bill is just come in and, uh, they haven't done anything. No, not, not pointing fingers or anything. Uh, just, just, yeah. 

Alright, Amy.

So, uh, before I let you go, I have, uh, this is a very woo woo question for anybody. Who's like, all right, that's enough. I'm out of here. You know, this is actually, you know, uh, thanks for joining us, take it, take care. Um, but me I'm like, uh, one of my favorite, uh, parts of the human experience is having dreams.

Cause I always feel like dreams are a way to, um, communicate with a, with a higher cause. And I had this one dream where I S I thought I was meeting with God, like I was in his office and he was on the opposite side. And he was just like, Hey, how you doing? I'm like, I'm good. I was like, do you want to keep going?

And then behind him is this open door and beyond the door was blackness. So I took it as like a metaphor for death. Um, and I said, no, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. And he says, okay. And, and that was it because presumably he's quite busy and happened about six years ago. And I still think about it to this day.

And. It's like the most like, uh, um, spiritual experience that I've had in my life. And I choose the dream path because it's, to me, it seems like a very tangible way to actually like have these, uh, experiences. Uh, I, I don't have an Iowasca dealer, uh, and I'm probably not going to get one at least, uh, not, not for a good long while.

Yeah. I just, I have to say that right now. I'm probably not going to take it. I was just wondering if you've had any, uh, uh, spiritual experiences or if you've experienced any closeness and if it's had any, um, Okay. Any impact on your, on your life at that point going forward? 

Amy Hunt: [00:58:45] Oh, wow. It's not where I thought you were going to go with, but.

Joseph: [00:58:48] You can tell me where you thought.

Cause I'm curious about that too.

Amy Hunt: [00:58:52] I'll get into that answer. Um, but as far as the dreams, I thought you were gonna say, you know, what is your dream? 

Joseph: [00:58:58] Yeah. As I'm asking them, like, she probably thinks that specific, 

Amy Hunt: [00:59:02] well, I, and I tell people you got a dream, a dream to make a dream come true. Or that's my, my, I don't know if I made that up or not.

Um, so think about that. You got a dream, a dream to make a dream come true. So you can't say, Oh, that's my dream. And it happens. Well, you had to dream it ahead of time. So to make it come to fruition. So don't be afraid to be a dreamer. I'm a dreamer. I have so many things I want to do. I have my store top shop.

Yeah. I want to create my drawings, put them onto products, put them into different stores and, and drop ship wholesale and, you know, do all those. Those are my in life, real life dreams. Have I had a spiritual experience, you'd have to do an entire other podcast with me, for me to hit those. So the answer is yes.

Thus, the reason I went to Messiah college, a Christian college, a high school is when I basically committed myself to Christ, um, based on the spiritual experience that I had in high school. Um, so it is real, the spiritual world. Totally real. Um, I have, I have firsthand experience. And that is why I call myself Christian because I am a Christ follower.

So that is my experience. And yes, I could talk another hour about those. So that is the reason why I am created a channel or an, or a channel that I haven't released yet for YouTube. I draw my pastor sermons. And that's something else that I'm going to get into and market, and just, that'll be a fun thing for me.

That's my dream. 

Joseph: [01:00:40] That's wonderful. I appreciate that. And you know, it'd being the idea of the, uh, the episode of an e-commerce podcast. That's as far as we'll, uh, uh, we'll go with it today, but, um, uh, w w we'll see where we go from here. I, I do want to hear it, but I know you gotta, you gotta go. So, uh, we're going to get you on out of here.

Uh, the last question you've got to wrap this one up is for people who want to see more of your content, or get in contact with you and just let them know what to do. And then if you have any final words of wisdom, maybe an answer to a question I didn't ask. Uh, not that you haven't given us plenty already, but just in case you want to share a little bit more, feel free.

So the floor is yours once more. 

Amy Hunt: [01:01:16] Okay. So my basic form of communication is through my YouTube channel called home business expert. And my website is called Amy hunt.com or Amy hunt.biz. I'm sorry, Amy hunt.biz. And I have. Or a blog on there as well that you can get connected to my email. I do one-on-one sessions.

Uh, I'll often get in contact with different softwares and get my viewers discounts. So if you're thinking about getting a software, come to my channel, because I might have a discount for it and a link to get you to it. So that's pretty much all I have. 

Joseph: [01:01:53] Terrific. Uh, well, everybody, uh, unless this is your first time listening to this, you probably know the drill by now.

And if you don't, uh, check out Amy's content, check out all of our previous episodes as well. Uh, there was a lot of people to, to learn from, and we're just happy to be able to share this kind of value with you. I certainly am happy to be the recipient of so much of it. So thanks to all of you for your participation, Amy.

Thanks again for your time. And we will check in soon. Take care. 

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