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It's a joy and a privilege to talk to the people on this program, in this the era of isolation, getting to hear stories of inspiration while expanding my knowledge and circle of contacts is a gift I don't take lightly. Today's guest Radha is an inspiration that stands all on it's own; I don't want to spoil the story here but her knowledge of ecommerce, determination and work ethic was so impressive we ended up hiring her. I guess it's not that surprising these are interviews. 

Radha is a multilingual and multicultural performance artist, photographer, startup founder, public speaker, and as of recently a TikTok Influencer. After studying entrepreneurship for well over 6 years, Radha decided to start her 1st dropshipping store in the middle of the pandemic, March 2020, but with little success. However, she decided not to give up and started her second store in October 2020 and scaled it to 16K per month in less than 60 days. This prompted her to share her experiences over social media and after starting a successful YouTube channel, she made her first ever TikTok video go viral – gaining her 9 million views and growing her account from 0 to 28K followers in 1 month.

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[00:00:00] Radha: Don't say sorry, say thank you instead kind of thing. I think that was told to me by three different entrepreneurship mentors I had, slash guest speakers all throughout different programs I took in the last couple of years. The thing is, everybody messes up and the reality is when the customer contacts you, because the order is late, wrong, or destroyed, they know it's already messed up.

[00:00:27] Joseph: It's a joy and a privilege to talk to the people in the program that I do. In this, the era of isolation, getting to hear stories of inspiration while expanding my knowledge and circle of contacts is a gift I don't take lightly. Today's guest, Radha, is an inspiration that stands all on its own. I don't want to spoil the story here, but her knowledge of e-commerce, determination, and work ethic was so impressive, we ended up hiring her. Yeah, just straight up gave her a job here. I mean, I guess it's not that surprising because these are interviews, but it's a really unique set of events. Now, here we are. So enjoy. 

Radha, it is good to have you here on Ecomonics. How you doing today? How you feeling? 

[00:01:04] Radha: I'm good. How about yourself doing pretty good.

[00:01:07] Joseph: Uh, it's very great to talk to a fellow Torontonian, so we don't have to get too much into the weather. It's a miserable day for both of us. It is actually, I was just wanted to point that out. 

So, so this episode is just for our audience knows, you know, sometimes episodes are coming. They come up in the last minute.

Sometimes, you know, there, we get to, we book them in advance and they get to have a preexisting conversation. And this is one of those times and what we're going to talk about today, it's going to get into some, you know, some more serious territory than, than we usually get into. So I just want everybody to be ready for that.

Uh, I'm going to take more. You know, uh, 60 minutes, uh, interviewer kind of, uh, mentality with this one, at least I'm going to try to, I don't know, I'll give it my best shot, but today's story is one that I've been really looking forward to hearing about. And most of my listeners know, we tend to avoid doing the backstory stuff until it gets towards the end, because they really want to get to the value first.

Uh, but in this case, the story is truly where a lot of this value comes from, because I think a lot of people are trying to get themselves motivated to get started, to break free of whatever situation they have to be in. And Radha your situation is very unique. We haven't talked to anybody who's experienced what you've experienced.

So that's the first thing that I want to, oh, actually, no, wait, I have to do my opening question, which is to tell us, uh, you know what you're doing, what you're up to these days. Oh, that's contractually obligated. I have to do that one and the 60 minutes, but it was out of the window. All right. So tell us what you're up to these days.

[00:02:31] Radha: What am I up to these days? Oh gosh. Uh, way too many things. So as you can expect, I'm running an e-commerce store, mostly within the arts, uh, home decor kind of niche. And I have a drop shipping slash e-commerce YouTube channel. Aside from that, I'm a musician, I'm a singer, songwriter. I'm an actor. So I'm consistently working on that.

I'm taking two courses right now for branding as an artist and for the music industry in general, I'm starting a new course in a couple of weeks as well. Uh, that's related to photography slash arts. I'm starting another YouTube channel, which is just personal stuff. And I am, I just had a TikTok go viral about a month ago, my first one ever.

So I'm working on, um, that new one, five minute TikTok fame. 

[00:03:19] Joseph: Yeah, I definitely had a TikTok question prepared for you. Um, and as well, I also wanted to also make sure that we've touched on, I guess, the, the balancing act that you're, uh, that you're going with as well, you know, managing, you know, the e-commerce business, as well as know, pursuing your career.

So a couple of things, a couple of pins in there that will unpinned later, but if anybody happens to have already, uh, looked into your YouTube, they would see on the marquee that you say it was homeless to six figures. At this point, now the audience understands why, uh, today's story is unlike any other that we've had.

So I'm not really sure what's the, what's the way to start. What's the question that I want to ask necessarily. It's really just a matter of take it away and, and, and let us know how you got to where you are these days. 

[00:04:03] Radha: So, I guess I'll just start like, kind of towards the beginning of my story. I was born in a small Republic called Ingushetia.

Yeah. No one knows what the hell that is. So do not fret it's basically, if you zoom into the Caucasus mountains and you keep zooming 10 times more, it looks like a teeny tiny shrimp on a map. I did grow up in Germany. However, I moved there when I was two years old and my whole life, um, I lived with very, like in a dysfunctional home, I had very a piece of parents.

I wasn't allowed to do anything. And oftentimes I would get the excuse that I'm either slim or that I'm shaken. But the reality was, my parents never told me what Ingushetia was, I never knew what it was, where it was. All that stuff. And so I never fit into Germany nor to Ingushetia.

Fast forward a little bit. Couple of years later, I was suddenly forced to kind of contact with my older siblings and we moved to Canada to like completely lose half of the family in a way. Didn't know exactly what was going on. Um, I was pretty young. I was like 14 around that time. And when we first came to Canada, I started really getting very depressed, very suicidal, had severe social anxieties, my whole life, which was the reason why I never really had friends.

And I started having eating disorders around that time as well, because once we came to Canada, my parents were just fighting a lot with each other, fighting with me. I wasn't able to have my oldest siblings around me were my support system. Yeah, I became lucky that we ended up moving to Toronto two years later because for me, I always thought about running away when I was younger, but I just knew when we first came to Canada, we lived in a very small village.

There was no option to run away in that case. So once we came to Toronto, I ended up running away about a year or so later. Decided to go back because at that point, my parents had already divorced. So I decided to go back home because my mom said she would change and life was going to be better and all that stuff. Didn't really change.

Two weeks later, she was back if not worse. And I ran away again for the second time. And about six months later. That time I had pending university obligations. Um, and I only had three months left to graduate. And when I suddenly saw myself forced to move into a shelter, trying to manage two part-time jobs so I can sustain myself.

And I started volunteering and doing extracurricular. I was like three per week because for the first time in my life, I was allowed to do something that, um, I wasn't ever allowed to do before I started doing all of that. And, uh, surprisingly, I ended up raising my average as a matter of fact, and I got accepted into my first choice of university after that. And so I came to a point where I realized that life is all about choices. We all have choices. And if you remember that and you really put an effort into your choices, you can get whatever you want. I entered the university, but I was still pretty lost because my whole life, I didn't know what I was good at.

I didn't know what I wanted to do because I was never allowed to do anything outside of going to school and buying groceries. I ended up deciding to pursue entrepreneurship at my university because I thought to myself, well, I kind of want to see the world since I never got a chance to see anything. If I become a business owner.

Yeah. Start a business it's going to run itself. I'll have money and I'll travel all over the world. That was, if it was really that easy. Decided to pursue entrepreneurship and then I kind of just realized I had a strong passion for it. I could just make sense with my personality and everything else I was doing.

I always knew that I liked the arts and the entertainment industry, but I felt like I wanted to be more than just being an artist. And so I think it was in my third year of university when somebody mentioned drop shipping in e-commerce and towards the end of fourth year after. I went to a boot camp in Germany when COVID hit while I was in Germany.

And that was just a whole nother story. Um, right after I came back from that trip, I decided to build my first e-commerce store and I had this like genius idea of what these like laser sanitizers, since whoa, COVID, everybody's going to go crazy. And then I'm going to save the world with these little thingys and that store failed.

And at first I broke even then I lost, I think $4,000. Cause I just tried to make it work and there was not working out. And I decided to start my second store after four months of intense work on the first one. Um, I started the second story in, I build it. I started building it in August, but I really started running it in October.

And that's when I made 3,500 in sales at the end of month. And so I realized, okay, this is something that can take somewhere. I set myself like monthly goals and quickly surpassed those far beyond what I thought I would actually get. And within a couple of months I was started. I started making like 16,000 per month.

And that's pretty much what I wanted with it. Then as of recently, I realized, I also want to like get back into the things that are like very important to me, like my origins and my music and stuff. So I'm like trying to find a good balance right now. Uh, yeah. So in terms of like the name, actually, I should, I didn't get a chance to touch upon that.

I was homeless for three years after I ran away. Um, while I was in university while I was doing a bunch of extracurriculars and a couple of part-time jobs here and there once in a while. Approximately a year after I had my own place is when I started to dropshipping store. 

[00:09:47] Joseph: That was one thing that I wanted to, to, to get a, uh, I guess a clear picture on is exactly when the, the drop shipping of it started.

I have a part of me was thinking that, you know, you're in like the, you know, the youth shelter and, you know, you're trying to do the, the drop shipping from the computer access or going to the library or something along those lines. But nonetheless, what you were able to do was, um, build up enough, uh, independence for yourself that you would have the means to, uh, get into entrepreneurship, which is in of itself exceedingly impressive. I think for, because entrepreneurship in curves risk it's chasing it's chasing self freedom and self guidance and, and self, um, uh systemization. And in order to do that, Ironically in order to have your own system, your own structure, it entails risk. And, and a lot of that risk was basically, um, uh, put upon, uh, put upon you because of basically what was, what was the alternative, right.

You didn't want to go back to, to living with your, with your parents or living with your mother, right? Cause you said they were divorced. So, you know, I, I never, I never thought our, our, our, our, our cascading through, um, my mind. Um, and so, uh, I'll, I'll, I'll touch on a few things that I wanted to, that I picked up on when I was hearing your story.

So the first one was what circumstance, where your parents in to I I'm, I, I dropped the name. I can not even remember the name of the, of the Republic. Um, one more time for me, Ingushetia. Okay. Uh, it rolls off the tongue. So was from, from there it to Germany? Uh, I I'm, I'm just wondering, why were they there in the first place?

Why did they move to Germany? Was a, they're familiar with connection where they there because of work? 

[00:11:27] Radha: I actually, so, um, so the thing was that Ingushetia always has been and more and has had a lot of issues and stuff. And right before my parents moved to Germany, there was basically, um, the war, like kind of like a civil war between Ingushetia and north of, because part of Ingushetia now belongs to long story, short people from Ingushetia would deported in 1944, then brought back part of the territory was given over to around that time.

And so the Ingushetia was always like, we want that territory. North was like, you're not getting it back. And so, so we're started my mom and my was pregnant around that time. I think with me when suddenly like her whole house was blown up and she had to move away and stuff. And so my mom was well off.

But then once that, that civil war happened, she kind of was poor just like my dad, they were married around that time. So they didn't have a good financial situation. Now around that time, also my dad and my mom, after they got married, my aunts from my dad's side, didn't like the fact that they were married.

Because my mom had happened to divorce before that, and my dad had not and my aunts were like, you shouldn't have married this woman. She already like has kids and stuff. And so my parents struggled a lot because my aunts were consistently not leaving my parents alone. And they weren't having a lot of peace in Ingushetia.

So my mom at one point heard a lot of people moving to Germany because Germany was accepting refugees around that time. And my grandpa gave my mom some money said here, moved to Germany. So you can like get away from the ants and live a better life. And since Germany was in fact accepting refugees and the fact that Ingushetia has just been through the civil war and my parents were considered refugees.

That's how they kind of got into Germany. 

[00:13:27] Joseph: It's fascinating to hear this story because, uh, at the time of this recording, um, there's a, a situation, you know, going on in Afghanistan, which I'm not going to delve into, but there's a lot of things happening on the world stage. And yet there are so many of these, uh, things that are happening that, you know, they don't get reported by the media.

Um, let alone fairly, and in a, in a situation such as this, this is the first time that I've, that I've heard of this nation state, uh, let alone that there was a civil war, civil war going on. And, and, and, you know, you hear about why, uh, you know, uh, families and, and, and, and marriages don't work out so well, you know, here in the Western world, and there's a number of issues, it's financial strain, it's, um, uh, the familial dynamic between relatives.

Um, it could be, uh, just the, their personalities ended up not, not meshing in, in such a way that they have to get away from each other, but there was no civil. I mean, you know, there's, there's, there's, there's there's crime there and there, and there was violence, you know, pretty much a anywhere you go looking.

But I would imagine that a, a, a conflict of that magnitude is having a lasting and profound impacts, not just on the financial side, because you said that her house was. You know, decimated, but also even, even the house where we're still standing, the, just the uncertainty of, you know, who can come knocking at the door, um, would put, I think, put any, uh, relationship, um, through a great ordeal that might not be as able to overcome that.

The other part of it, they also wanted to just touch on as well is how are you then able to get from Germany over to Toronto? Was it also a familiar? 

[00:15:09] Radha: Oh, well, that's an interesting story because, um, my parents started, or my mom specifically started watching show called goodbye Germany, which is basically Germans immigrating outside of term, like going to different places.

And she saw a lot of Germans moved to Canada and my mom's on, oh, it looks like a nice place. We should go there. Now on the other hand, my parents wanted to move away from Germany because they had a lot of debt in Germany. And so my parents were like, well, let's just leave. It's not the most ethical thing, but my parents were like, let's just leave the debt behind here and go and start somewhere else while we don't have the debt.

On the other hand, my dad also wanted to, um, make sure that we kind of get away from my older siblings because they were already married at that time. As in they, they got married off. And then my dad was like, I kind of like, just want to like cut the family off in a way. And still for him, it was a way to get us away from my oldest siblings.

And so my parents looked into it and they found a company that basically helped people from Germany, immigrated to Canada by like paying them some money. And then they do like some sort of sponsorship for your family and stuff. My parents ended up saving some money. Don't ask me how I that's still a mystery because they're not good at that stuff.

Yeah. So they ended up saving the money, paid that to the company and they helped us immigrate over. And that's how we got here. 

[00:16:41] Joseph: Yeah, well, it, it, it is, um, just to, to look at the, you know, the positive side of this as well, it is at the same time, not really knowing about all the conflicts going on. Uh, the, the other side of it is, is also not knowing the lengths that, you know, human beings are willing to go to, to aid one another, you know, being able to, um, you know, make your way into Germany.

Then again, being able to make your way over into Canada, uh, again, you, it was, this is a small town or village to, to Toronto. So with, with all of that, the next thing that I'm wondering about was what was the experience like, uh, in, in, in the shelter and like, uh, you know, privacy, um, uh, accessibility was, or curfews.

There was a lot of this that I just don't know about. 

[00:17:25] Radha: For me personally, the time I had to shelter was one of the best I had in a way, because fun fact, I felt like I finally had a home. I would come home. Like I would come back to the shelter, I guess. And I could just walk into the office when it was some staff members sitting at all times and just tell them about my day.

I could just be like, Hey, I got an, a plus on this test or I got my orange belt in karate or something like that. Right. And they would just be genuinely happy and proud for me. I remember when I started getting university acceptance letters while I was at the university while I was at the shelter. Um, they, they received the mail.

So they came up and gave it to me. Right. And they needed it. Wasn't universal. Cause they saw it on the envelope and they were just standing there, like open it, open it, open it. And I'm like, okay. And I'm just like opening. I'm like I got accepted and they just like jumped like crazy and hugged me. And then I'm like, I also got a scholarship and then she jumped again.

So, um, no, it was different than being at home where I could be getting A's all the time. And my mom wouldn't even know. She would just yell at me. Tell me I'm stupid. All of that. In terms of privacy, it kind of depends because in the first shelter I lived in, I shared a room with a roommate later on.

They added more beds to that room, apparently after I left. So you often times don't get your own room. We get to share it with one person, at least. And then six months later, I moved into what's called a transitional home, which is basically supposed to be a step between a shelter and the regular home.

They say, well, you do get your own room, but you have to share often then do you have to share bathrooms, kitchens, living rooms, and how it works is that they, some of them charge you like a very, very low cost to rent. Others, like the ones that I stayed in, they charge you, but they basically put that into a savings account for you.

And then by the time you leave, they give you all the money back. So it's kind of not necessarily rent. It's supposed to help encourage you to save money in a way so that when you move out, you have something for like first and last month rent and stuff like. That said, though, um, even though they kind of charge you to save the money, they don't always like, if you don't want to do it, or if you say I don't have the money to save them up, they don't even charge you.

You just get to live there for free and only, so it's not like hard, you need to save thing. They really tried to push you too, but it's like, um, yeah, you don't necessarily have to have to. Those were the best times I had, I guess as well. I stayed in the first one for about a year. Had my first relationship was the first time in my life.

That was exciting and just could live like a normal life. I could just go to university when I wanted to go to come home study one-on-one to do that, go outside to the store if I want to do that. Of course it would curfews, but curfews were alike. The first one had a curfew. I think 1:00 AM the shelter.

And then transitional home had a few that was like 4 am. So yeah, to be back by four and if you like, we're lit and if you like you just calling them, then it's fine. Uh, you could also get like overnights, usually like four to eight per month. And then the second again, I moved into a different transitional after that was pretty much the same. 

[00:20:40] Joseph: You know, the time that I w that I learned anything about, uh, about shelters.

This is going as far back as elementary school, where, uh, you know, somebody from covenant housing came in and just, and just told us about, you know, what it's like, and somebody comes in and they're behind a screen and they actually have to ask, like, do you have any weapons on you and say, well, you know, sometimes they have to, they have to hold onto a hammer or something just to get out of their own house safely.

So to hearing, hearing your story, uh, it it's, it changes my point of view on it, because I think for a lot of people, myself included the idea of, you know, a, a youth shelter is just slightly. Then the situation that they have at home and it's, and it's just a holding area and it's in there and there's only so much that they can really do.

So to hear instead that it's actually, you know, a great option for, uh, for a lot of people to not only, you know, tread water, but to start to, um, you know, improve the situation and make their way out and become an independent such as yourself. I really didn't know that. So my other follow-up question to the, to the shelter and then we'll move on is also, did you notice commonalities or personality traits or from some of the other people that, uh, that you had met in the shelter as well?

So some commonalities are rather obvious. I should, I should clarify an edit by say, well, yes, I, everybody has to be there because there's some dire situation at home. So that's an obvious commonality. We'll skip that, but I meant more like, you know, personality traits and what people, uh, Okay. Bar in their life and where they, where they see themselves going.

[00:22:13] Radha: And that's actually a very interesting question. I'm glad you asked that. I want to say yes and no, but it's, it's very solicited because for example, a lot of people who go through shelters don't go to university or college. And when I first got my university acceptance letters during that time, when I told you to the staff was really happy for me.

I asked him like, why are you guys so excited? Because everybody in my school almost everybody's going to university or college, it's not a big deal. And they told me, well, because in a shelter, like people who come through, almost nobody ever goes to university or college, you're like one of those like three kids at most.

And we have out of 50 people. And a lot of the reasons for that is because, um, when you going through a dire situation at home, your marks tend to not be great in high school. So a lot of people who come to through shelters. Barely finished high school because of those reasons. And a lot of people do tend to have mental health problems more so than your average, um, 12th grader because of everything that's going on.

So that the difference I did notice that I did find a lot more people had mental health issues than I did do too. But for me, it was like I already kind of had started getting, dealing with my own mental health, by the time I was getting into a shelter. And then the other thing for me was the fact that I never really had friends all my life really made, focusing on school super easy for me.

It just came naturally to me. And I guess that also helps me then to like pursue university and stuff like that. That was one difference I noticed. But aside from that, in terms of like personality, I found people living in the shelters were some of the most down to earth people I've ever met. And that's one thing I really like appreciate and love about people that I met through shelters is you could just like, like very low judging in shelters, just because everybody was like, yeah, we all came from somewhere.

So that was a nice situation. 

[00:24:15] Joseph: I guess one thing that I, that I imagined too, is that the end of their not going to college and university, they might pursue trades, or they might just get into the labor force. Just some, some means that they can start generating a generating revenue. 

[00:24:26] Radha: So a lot of people, um, that live in shelters, oftentimes I don't want them through the trades, like you said, or I appreciate the workforce.

Um, a lot of people actually were working part-time jobs, I would say. And some of them were still pursuing like schooling. Usually like most of the high school credits they were finishing up upon. And then considering going to college at university, I found a lot of people who one through use shelters would like the ones that did pursue university in college, pursued Marshall, like later in life then right at that. 

[00:24:57] Joseph: That makes sense.

Um, so just to, to, to, um, wrap up the, the, the shelter part of the, of the story here. So two things, um, that come to my mind that I'm wondering about one of them is have you, uh, had a chance to you know, touch, touch base with them, let them know how things are going. Um, is there, I guess this is, this is kind of a, a strange parallel if you compare it to college and university, but I would say there's like an alumni of people who, you know, they, they, they, they exit the, the, the shelter system.

Is there, uh, an equivalent of that where, you know, you can, you can go back and even help some of the other people in this situation that they're in. 

[00:25:37] Radha: When I was talking about shelters, like shelters offers so many supports systems. Like a lot. There's a lot of alumni thing programs around like housing help.

There's help with furnitures for your new apartment. If you need that, where they like ride you with basic appliances and furniture as well, and connect you with resources, daft food banks that has always groceries, you can help get help with. There's always clothing bags available in case you need that.

There's also the shelter support. You can still access all of the mental health and the clinics that are available throughout. You can still access like some of the get together nights they have. And there's a lot of programming and proper community score. You can also come back as, um, as a mentor, as a public speaker or just in general to host a program or facilitate something.

I have been working as a public speaker for almost four years before COVID hit. And some of the job opportunities are like really great. Um, for people who live in a shelter. The public speaking, et cetera. I was doing with the shelters. I started doing them while I was homeless. And then continued after I moved out when basically paying me $75 for speaking for 40 minutes.

So the, the thing is that the opportunities that the shelters do provide you with as well. I mean, I tried to make sure that you are getting paid like a professional rather than a homeless person, because when I asked them, like, why is it so much? They were like, well, that's how much public speakers get paid and we will pay you like a public speaker, not like a homeless person.

That's trying to scrape by in a way. So, um, there's always connections and ways to get back involved and to connect. And still having the relationship with the people you met there. 

[00:27:25] Joseph: It's a, it's important for, you know, for institutions help, I guess, set the bar for, uh, for professional rights and specific.

Cause I mean, me, me as a, as a freelancer, I, it took me quite a while before I was charging professional rates and the exposure was nice, but you know, the exposure didn't, uh, uh, didn't afford me much. So what was the, what was the name of the shelter? And if people are, I know, I know it's a local thing, but if people ever want to show their support for it, um, I, I am, I'm keen to know what was the name like what was yours in specific, but also generally speaking what people can do if they wants to, uh, even, uh, lend some of their own aid.

[00:28:02] Radha: Yeah. So from our shelter I stayed at was rises for youth, um, which I do encourage people if they want to donate to donate specifically to this one, because they weren't. They are more likely to need it than the other two that I'll mention. The second one I stayed at, it was the transitional home at covenant house called memorize a passage.

And the third one I stayed at was Eva's Phoenix, transitional home. If people want to support shelters, I think the best way you can support shelters is one support the ones that don't have a big name, because a lot of people oftentimes want to support the bigger organizations because they're better known.

I guess the reality, however, is those are not the ones that need the most aid. The ones that need the most data are the ones that are unknown and smaller in terms of, if you want to donate things, ask yourself really, if this is something that gets donated, like if this is something that's like a very common, and if this is something that you would want to receive as well at the position you're in right now, because the type of donations I see people make is either something.

Soaps, toothbrushes, toothpaste, because they're like everybody needs that, which is true. But because of that reason, everybody donates the same thing and shelters have like rooms filled with soaps rooms, filled with toothpaste. Um, when, where it's probably better if you donated something that now nobody thinks about.

What wipes so many people can make use of those, but no one thinks about that because people think that's not a necessity, but the reality is that soaps and toothbrushes chillers have way too much of that. And people will live in shelters who need wide wipes. Well, guess what? They'll have to go out and buy those at that point.

Now, the other thing that I see people donate is donate stuff that they would not use themselves anymore because they think somebody's poor. Somebody in shelter will still make use of it. Like a really, really old pair of jeans that's been worn out because they're like, it's still clothing better than throwing it away.

But the reality is if you don't want to wear it, most likely somebody in a shelter doesn't want to wear it either. So if you donate something, really ask yourself, is this something I would want to use myself before just giving it away? Or do I just throw it out? 

[00:30:24] Joseph: Right. I appreciate that. And now after my girlfriend's mother bought us some wet wipes, I am purely in the campus.

Yes. Those are definitely a central. And also, I, I, it's funny. Cause like I do have like a number of shirts that have holes in them. Um, I, I have like two drawers. One is like, okay, these are the ones that I can use for recordings. Cause there's no holes around the neck and these are the ones that I can not.

And I was actually just like, damn. And he's got a whole lot of time and he's got a whole, I still use all of them, but anyways.

So I want to move on next to the, you know, the e-commerce part of this. So you mentioned that, you know, there was two stores, one went, well, one, not so much. Um, the one that did not go so well was, as you say, it was the, it was a laser or light-based sanitizer and it seems, you know, I can see exactly what the, what the logic was, is like, okay, this is the time this is, you know, the, the, the supply is there, the demand is there.

Um, it's, uh, it seemed, it would seem like it's a slam dunk. So, um, right before you start that though, uh, I would like to also know the situation you were in and getting the budget together for it. So, you know how much, uh, you were able to put aside for it. What were your other expenses? I believe, you know, you got school that you're working on, you have rent, you have food.

So how were you able to put together the time and the money to. Yeah. 

[00:31:52] Radha: So this was right after I went to Germany for a bootcamp with my university wedding accepted 12 people took us to Germany was like an entrepreneurship bootcamp while I was there. Somebody mentioned like, this was the time where like we were literally like in Germany and they were just announcing in Canada, all flights are getting canceled because COVID is exploding.

Borders are closing this Friday though, this sun this Sunday, and we were supposed to return on Saturday. So I literally came back the day before borders closed. And Tony mentioned something about COVID subscription boxes, like emergency subscription boxes. And one of my professors was like, oh, that's actually a good idea.

And I thought that was a genius idea. That's why I decided to go with the sanitizing laser lights, because that was like, it seemed like a genius idea right now in terms of the money. Um, the thing was, I always had a good chunk of money saved like over the years since I was homeless, kind of mostly from scholarship.

Scholarships. And then also like, like I said, the public speaking and your limits, a couple of programs, couple of gigs that I did here in there. And I would just always save the money instead of spending it because I knew it would probably come useful for business. So that's why I got the money from. And I think when I was starting out, I spent around, I want to say in the first month or so about a thousand dollars, maybe a little less, like somewhere between 500,000, um, from those savings.

And I kind of broke even with that. So I didn't lose that money. And then I decided to run more ads. I used more money from like the savings. And I think I lost about 4,000 around that time that said, however, I was still getting like governments, like support, like the CSB do, might be familiar with, which was like a COVID relief fund for anybody who doesn't know.

And so those 4,000 came out of that money pretty much. 

[00:33:48] Joseph: So. Uh, CSB the one I'm familiar with as a CRB. I'm not sure if there's a difference between those two CSB was the one for students or for students. Okay. Okay. So then, so let's, let's, uh, let's switch over to the next, the next door that you've run, uh, goes a significantly better.

So what would you say were some of the lessons, um, or just really this, just the strategic, uh, knowledge that you had, you picked up from the previous one carries over into the next one, and then things start to look better. 

[00:34:20] Radha: The first thing was product research. The most important thing about running into drop shipping stores, your product, because initially I wanted with this product because I thought it would just be the perfect product for the time right now.

And I saw a couple of people doing it, but I didn't necessarily know if they were making sales from it. Right. I just saw they were running couple of ads here and there. So there was no social proof behind that first product. Whereas with my second store, my second product, or my second, like the products within the store, I made sure that I found products that had a lot of sales and a lot of reviews behind them.

So I knew it was selling and that the products had social proof. And then the, the second thing that I've picked up from the first store was product pages, how to build proper product pages. Because when I first built the products, when I first bought the first store, I was like, this looks kind of good enough.

I would kind of say it's okay. But then I realized, well, it can't just be okay. You have to make it look like tip top to the best of your best abilities. And so I became much, much more picky pickier about the product pages than I build. So I think those are the two most important examples.

[00:35:33] Joseph: Let's just say, for instance, you were to, um, fire up a new business, uh, today.

Um, I would like to hear what would be your, what would be your process and how you would go through the steps as they are now? 

[00:35:46] Radha: So for me, the first thing is to find the products. I would just go on different sides, like Etsy, look at the reviews, look at what's the best selling product. I same thing with Amazon, same thing with Ali express, for Ali express and Alibaba, I specifically like to search for problem.

So I'll go for something like, um, I dunno, let's say sleep app. And then I'll see what comes up and then I'll try to go for help or solutions for sleeping problems and see what comes up as well. Because that way I find me products. And before that, before I do the product research, I would have to decide what kind of niche I want to go for.

So once I kind of find several products that I like, actually I want to touch a research method I've used is Fiverr. I kind of quickly want to throw this in there. Cause I think this is one that people always overlook. If you look up specific Facebook ads, Creators like the people that sell video ads, you can, a lot of fines find a lot of times find really good products and their reviews as well.

So once I find the products, I will then go and build the store. I usually use Shopify recently. I'm starting to use Dr. Tech, which I can talk about a little bit more maybe later on I built the store that makes sure that the product pages are incredible. I look for competitors Schwab, ideally selling similar products and see what they're putting their products, how they build their pages and what kind of keywords they use to market the product.

I also look at the reviews that people have left without product and what they say about the product. If they say that this dock toy is calming their dog down, that I'll talk about exactly that in my product pages and not my story, once the story is built, then I decide on the marketing. I either go to Facebook.

And, um, as of recently I'm looking into TikTok and Pinterest as well, but then I just built the ads and then sell. 

[00:37:37] Joseph: One thing that I wanted to, to touch on was when you had mentioned that, you know, you're typing in sleep disorders or sleep apnea, that's, that's searching for the problem that needed solving, but how would it occur to you to look for that problem in particular and not, uh, you know, anxiety or any other issues that could be like, how are you determining what problems to look for?

[00:37:58] Radha: So first I picked a niche. Um, I kind of wanting to live it back and forth here, but the first thing I would do is decide on a niche that ideally I know something about and that I'm passionate about. And that relates to me in a way, because then one thing I did wrong with the first two as well was I picked something that I was not super passionate about.

If you're not passionate about it, it's going to be 10 times harder to keep working on a store when it starts failing. So I kind of think to myself, okay, what are the, the, the themes, the niches that I'm interested in, what I'm kind of the things and problems that I personally have as well. And then I decide on the problems from there.

And then I go on Ali express and like type those. 

[00:38:39] Joseph: So that's the kind of answer that I, that I like to hear because, you know, there's always this, um, uh, the, this clash between, you know, the, I guess the more they want the personal or the emotional side know where does, where does the passion come from? But then also the, the more calculating side, which is, you know, so what if it's your passion?

You know, you, you still have to sell. And, and it really seems like the, you know, the passion side, it tends to win a lot of the arguments, because like you say, if you don't, you don't have that inner energy to, to continue working on this, when it becomes a struggle, then you're just, you're not going to get far anyways.

Even if it, it does so happen to be a, you know, a killer product. So it's just great to be able to, to reinforce. Dr tech, you know, this WPI is Shopify template. You know, this is Shopify country, but we, one of our rules in the shows that when we face, you know, um, conflicting information, we had a right for it. So tell us about Dr. Tech. 

[00:39:33] Radha: Yeah, so I started working with them very recently. Basically. I did like a couple of interviews with them before I did, like, I interviewed them myself. I mean, before I started working with them and adduction tech as basically a new alternative platform to Shopify, they're not super well known in north America because they're from France.

And the founder basically started a company in France, moved over to the island now and is working with an incubator dare to grow growth business. But basically he realized very quickly that all of like the problem Shopify was having and how Shopify is a lot of times overcharging people, because he was like, you don't need to charge people.

Extra for apps and for the side, because once you integrate the apps, you can like find them through commerce and like have them build together. So there's no need for like double charges. And there's ultimately for transaction costs to really realize. And so after talking to several dropship entrepreneurs, he was like, I personally love running a business and I want to help entrepreneurs create more businesses.

So he willed up this platform with, by himself, with a couple of people. And Dr. Tech basically allows you to build your own store for. The first time cost is $59. And then you don't pay a monthly fee until you make your first $500 in revenue. After that it's a monthly fee of 59 again. So it's pretty much risk-free when you start out, you don't have to worry about what if I don't make sales?

Am I going to lose money on a store? All of the app fees are included all of the transaction fees I included in that $59. And it has over like 200 templates to build your store with then. Yeah. And you can easily migrate like a movie store from Shopify, which is Dr. Tech as well. So the thing that I really loved about DATIA tech was specifically the message behind it, that the founder was really just building a, to help entrepreneurs.

And that's why I started a YouTube channel as well, to help people get into entrepreneurship. 

[00:41:33] Joseph: So I've noticed a pattern throughout this interview, uh, which is the, the, that there are things that are, uh, you know, not well-known. So, you know, the Republic of . I think I got that. Um, the, the, the horizon, no, not even close four out of 10.

Okay. Four out of 10. I got no worries. Um, the, you know, the horizon you shelter, uh, Dr. Tech is that this is it's been coming up throughout. This is that, you know, Um, elements of, uh, of the world that are doing a lot of good, but they're just not getting the, you know, the kind of, uh, recognition that they deserve.

Have you, you know, you're doing your part, you know, you've got your YouTube channel, you know, we're, you know, we do our part of your, to, uh, on the podcast to try to give these things a, some, some airtime. This is kind of a, more of like a, I dunno like a perspective question, more of, you know, just kind of curious to get your opinion on it is, um, what are you finding is really limiting a lot of these, um, whether it's, you know, it's a nation or it's a, an organization or a business is, is keeping these things from being more, more well-known is it, is it the marketing budget?

Just isn't there is it, the, the larger industries just tend to have so much more, you know, hair time, whether it's a large country versus a small country, large shelter versus small shelter. And so on. 

[00:42:55] Radha: I mean, just like everything else in the world is obviously branding, right? As an artist in the entertainment industry a lot.

And I can give you the example of like how certain celebrities might not be the best singers, but they're the most famous versus singers who are incredible, but they're not that well known all because of branding. So there's that obviously, but I also think that the other part of this is that I personally tend to look for the well, in terms of, obviously doesn't doesn't apply, but I tend to look for the smaller resources.

I often prefer working with the smaller guys because one they needed more a day, oftentimes more passionate about what they do. I find that like much more effort driven than a way. And I also, I just find, I get much more out in terms of building something into having more impact by working with the smaller, um, smaller guys that said, though, yeah.

Going back to the branding, I think it's mostly related to branding and market ability. The reason companies get bigger is because of brand. 

[00:44:04] Joseph: I will share one thought of this, that I've, that has crossed my mind a number of times, not just on the show, but you know, throughout the years is that there is an element of, um, a funneling effect where, you know, when you have larger brands, um, and one community I used to use, and I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but a comedian like Dan cook was very popular, you know, in like the, let's say 2009, 2010.

And what I think, um, brands at that scale, they they're good at starting to generate interest, giving people their first taste of something, and many people will stay there, but then they will filter through, maybe those are developed more nuanced cases and they'll want, then they'll listen to a more specific comedians.

They're like a Mitch Hedberg. And, and I, I don't, I, I relate that to something like McDonald's, you know, McDonald's is gives people a taste for hamburgers. Then you get into the more specific, the more, you know, the more premium ones. So I do think that there can be a funneling effect here as well. There isn't an advantage to being smaller.

Um, I think that passion might not always scale up so well, uh, when something becomes more industrialized, a lot of that passion might actually be lost. So there, I think there are advantages to the size, but it is a matter of, you know, making sure that the channels are open and the communication is there.

And that big accompanies recognize the value in supporting small companies and vice vice-versa. 

[00:45:30] Radha: The bigger companies today tend to be much more general because they try to appeal to a much, much larger audience. Right. And the smaller ones tend to be more niche because they focus on that one thing that they got started with.

So in my opinion, yes, both have quite well provide value to the market and their specific voice. And just like you said, people start out with the broad company, like McDonald's to get a taste of hamburgers. Was it wishes like the general. Appealed to like the broadest audience you can possibly give. And then from there on you get to find your like smaller niche companies that you would venture off into.

So for sure. Yeah. 

[00:46:13] Joseph: Yeah. I mean, I can, I can go off on a, on a tangent for, for good long while on this too. Cause like I said, I've been thinking about this for years, but I'll uh, I'll, I'll leave it at that for now. I also wanted to touch on your, you know, you're working, uh, in, in film and an acting. Uh, I think for a lot of people, um, the, you know, entrepreneurship is appealing because it, uh, it frees up a lot of time.

It gives people a chance to do as they please, it could take quite a while before people get to that point. Um, if they're lucky though, they could end up grinding for a number of years. So, you know, there's people have different concerns. Uh, you know, we're just looking for ways to, to inspire people to, to really get started.

So tell us about your balancing act right now is the balance between, you know, you to have your studies, your, your, your career and the a, an e-commerce business. 

[00:47:03] Radha: I think I want to start out by saying if people want to pursue entrepreneurship, because they're trying to find like more free time, like you said, yes, you can have that, but I can take quite sometime before you get there.

And ideally I would say, unless you really love working and what you're doing, don't pursue it if that's not, not you 'cause. Um, yeah, you'll work a lot. For me the thing is I don't necessarily have, like to begin with I never was a person who will always like to go out and like go partying and stuff like that.

So that wasn't easy one for me to, to avoid. But the other thing is for me, my biggest hobbies in life is what I am doing right now. My hobbies and my work are pretty much kind of the same thing at this point. A lot of times I will work several hours on my e-commerce. So nowadays I don't work as much on it as like in the beginning stages.

Cause I'm not like trying to grow it anymore. A couple of times I will. And then several hours I'll spend on practicing singing, practicing acting, taking courses, running the YouTube channels, trying to film something daily, just so I get into the habit of doing that. And in terms of balancing, I wake up at four 30 every morning and I go to bed at around 10 to 12.

So for me, it's like, I don't know if we can say I'm balancing. But the reality is I just love it though. I really do love getting, working on stuff. There is part of me that wants to work more on other things. Like, I really want to dig more into social. You really want to dig more into singing and acting, but unless you really love what you're doing, it's going to be hard to, to do that.

And when you do it, doesn't feel like work. It just feels like doing. Yeah. I don't know how to describe it otherwise than that. 

[00:48:48] Joseph: I think I might have a way to describe it. So there there's this movie, um, not, not the remake of the original total recall. It's the Arnold Schwarzenegger film and without giving away too much of the plot, there was a lot of trying to understand what's going on. Well, at the same time, it is also an action movie where Arnold funs down a bunch of people. Um, but it's, it's a scifi premise about whether or not what's happening is either a dream or reality. And, and because the, the, the audience is trying to keep up with the logic of it, it makes the keeping up process a little bit more difficult than just like a run in the middle of the movie where he guns down a bunch of people.

And I think that there is an element to that trying to keep up with, uh, with everything going on is a, is a very energizing state because it's not a struggle. And, and it's not, um, it's not easy, but it's, it just, it's just that healthy amount of pushing. That's constantly keeping the form momentum going.

That's how I would characterize it. 

[00:49:49] Radha: I totally agree with that. I was fine. It's the fact that, um, you feel like you get something out of it every time you finish that. For example, I like watching movies. I like reading books, but you watch a movie, you finish a broker. You're like, okay, great. That was fun.

That's that. Whereas for me, when I do something, let's say practicing on something I love doing or running any business, like work on that for three hours after I finished, I'm like, it kind of was fun, but I also feel like I did something. I feel like there was something I achieved compared to the movie or the book.

So like you said, that constant pushing, I feel like it works you towards that as well. Because every time you push yourself, you feel like you took a little step, then you push yourself far further and you feel like it took another step. And so that kind of helps go along with it too. 

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I'm wondering about, um, cause I, my, my producer, uh, she's great at doing the, uh, the initial dig and a lot of research found your, um, I find your resume and you've done like a number of a stage performances in live performances. And I, this is just like a personal curiosity for me, which is dealing with, uh, with nerves.

I do. Do you get the nervousness? Is it like if I get, if I'm nervous, it's actually a good thing. That's one thing I was told is that, Hey, if you're nervous, that's good. You know, don't, you don't want to avoid that. But, uh, I, I'm just curious about, you know, from your expertise as a performer is dealing with it, uh, just kind of letting it flow through Zen meditation is how you like your, your relationship with it.

[00:51:41] Radha: So as mentioned, I had social anxieties my whole life. Like I was so scared of people that. Every year, every lunch break, I would oftentimes hide in the, underneath the staircase in the basement of my school and walk back to class with spiderwebs. Cause I was just so afraid of seeing people and having them think I'm a loser because I don't have friends and stuff.

And I remember it was in grade 11 when I had to give a presentation, I used to be the most nervous wreck you could imagine. And I decided to myself, I kind of know as decent actor and I kind of enjoyed it at that time. I thought to myself, why don't I imagine this is an acting role and I'm a CEO giving a presentation to my company staff, that's the role.

And so I really practiced and prepared for that acting role per se. And I ended up amazing presentation and that same year I won an award in high school for senior seniority. And so that one experience I think was really what helped me with the nurse as a actor, because I realized that if. Imagine that you, somebody you want to be, it's so easy to for guests, the rest of the world, and really live in that moment.

And every time when I have an acting role that comes up, I just think back to that moment of how hard it was for me to ever go and speak to people. But I still managed to get that or in high school, because I did that. And that's what I think really helped me with the nerves now, in terms of acting I'm so calmed in terms of acting, I can just walk up anywhere and like improvise and do that stuff, and then I'm go singing and that's something entirely new.

That's something I had to bit of past trauma and stuff with as well. So there I do still have nerves. I still get super nervous about singing and I'm slowly starting to like work my way up on that too, and get used to not having those nerves. But yeah, but I feel like the most important thing is find something you really love and try to connect it with what you want to do.

And then it's easy to lose those. 

[00:53:41] Joseph: Yeah. Okay. I like that. As you were saying that though, that was giving me an opportunity to put a few things together in my own mind as well. Okay. Well, I'll, I'll, I'll let it go. Cause this isn't about me at least some of the time, not all the time. The other question that I had prepped for you.

Cause we're, we're, we're pretty close to, uh, wrapping up here and in fact, yeah, it's like, we're almost at an, almost at an hour. So one of the, one of your videos, it is you, you talk about. You know, customer service and, um, I'm just gonna spoil it because I just, this was a kind of a, a real changing point for me, which is, you know, we were always told, you know, my previous customer service jobs, you know, you always want to start with a sorry.

Um, and your, and your position is it's better to, sorry if it's like genuinely the company's fault, but it's better to say thank you because it's about bringing something to our attention. Uh, so that, that was a kind of a, kind of a major breakthrough for me even. Um, but that's what, the part that I'm wondering about, the part that I'm wondering about is, I guess, how you reconcile your previous experiences with the grievances that customers are bringing to you, because we don't know their story.

We don't know what they've been through, but it seems like. Bringing forth, what could be a trivial matter in the grand scheme of things? Like, why is this taking so long or this isn't quite the color scheme that I thought it was. I know, like, I, I don't want to, it's not really by my time or place to get into it, but I've been through, um, a, uh, a litany of issues in the past too.

And when I would do customer service, my cortisol levels would spike. And all of that fear of all of that loss that I could experience would actually start coming up again. So I, I don't, I don't know what the hell is the best way to deal with it, but, uh, I, I'm really curious to hear about your, uh, you know, how in your mind, how you, I guess, uh, find empathy with them or how are you able to resolve their problems?

[00:55:27] Radha: Don't say sorry say thank you instead of kind of thing. I think that was told to me by three different entrepreneurship mentors I had slash guest speakers throughout like different programs I took in the last couple of years. I sell I started my first store the thing is I sell, I mentioned myself art space products, but a lot of these are gifts that people get that oftentimes I've connected with something like somebody's birthday, or they're getting it for an anniversary, or they're getting it as a gift because their father passed away and it's like, kind of memory kind of keepsake. And so I've had some of the most interesting stories from my own story where customers were like, I just proposed to my girlfriend and this is for her police. Make sure it's amazing. Why is it late or other people were like, my dad just passed away and I'm getting these as a keepsake for the whole family kind of thing.

So I had like a lot of very emotional stories connected to one specific product of my store because it was bad type of product. The thing is, everybody messes up and the reality is when a customer contacts you, because the order is late or wrong or destroyed, they know it's already messed up. They already know it's broken.

They already know that there's a problem with it. So when you say, I'm sorry, you just reinforcing the fact that, oh yes, you received them less than what you have should have received. It's almost like you're putting more salt in the wound. You like literally reinforcing. Yeah. You lost out. Whereas when you say thank you, it makes them feel like you're giving a little bit of something back to them and makes them feel like you because you are, because only to say thank you.

It was basically saying thank you for your patience. Thank you for your understanding. So it makes them feel like you realize how hard they're actually working to, to deal with this problem. So a lot of times I have found, if you say thank you instead of story, but also make sure that you provide the best value and the best advice and help you can do.

It takes you much further than when you say, sorry. A lot of customers came to me being super upset because they received the wrong product or something have no isolate. And I would just tell them, listen, so this happens, we understand. And we thank you. And thank you for bringing this to our attention.

This is what I can do for you. These are the different options you have, let us know what you want us to do, and we'll get started on that right away. And once again, thank you for all that patience. And thank you for your understanding. We'll do our best to work with you to get this resolved. And so it feels like some sort of teamwork, it feels like you're both trying to take a step forward rather than you apologizing to somebody because you messed up.

And now you're trying to like make excuses. So I think that's the best course of action. And that's why, how I approach it a lot of times. 

[00:58:19] Joseph: And then where do you draw the line where it, it becomes a necessary to make an apology. 

[00:58:25] Radha: And it's very obvious that there was like, um, something that was messed up. And when it's more than just like one mistake, for example, let's say supply messed up and we decided to help them.

And then something else happens again. Then I'm like, okay, now it's like the second that I'm kind of going to apologize. Or when it was something that was like I said, very obvious in the sense, um, customer contacted us saying they want a specific modification. And I said, sure, we'll make sure that's incorporated.

And then it's like, oh, that never was incorporated. Now. I'm like, okay, it's kind of really obvious that we promise something and we didn't take action on that kind of thing. Was the other things like something being late, something being destroyed in the mail really, it's not necessarily like something very obvious that we could have predicted as a company or that was directly related to us.

So those things that rather thing for, and then when it's something super obvious, I try to, I don't know if that might just made sense, but I don't want that to probably across. 

[00:59:29] Joseph: No, I, well, I mean the, the big picture is a, is crystal clear. I mean, I think there is always an element of case by case basis to it as well.

But, um, I, I, what I, what I, what I appreciate the most out of it. Sorry is not the go-to reaction. Um, they're, they're, they, they should be an apology should be more precious than that. And so for that reason, gratitude is precious. No matter how abundant it is, if you always show gratitude, it always comes back.

So you're never going to see, like, you know, uh, an inflation of gratitude. You never going to see a, um, a diminishing returns on it. Gratitude is, is pure. And so I think sharing that will, uh, is a good place to start. And yeah, so that, that to me is like, there's the matrix. Oh with that. So that is the, that is the hour I have to say.

I was really looking forward to this one and I'm, uh, not only did I get to hear a great story, but, uh, a lot of really keen insights as well. So I I'm, I'm glad we were able to, uh, really, really cover a number of areas. So the, the, the final wrap-up question for you is if there's like a parting wisdom or like a Chinese proverb or something, you'd like sharing, you're welcome to, uh, I mean, I do see one in the back there, which is, I don't look back, uh, because you're not going that way.

So that's not a bad one, something along those lines. Um, and then let the audience know how they can, uh, discover you online. Hey, we've got to talk about the Tiktok. Did you want to talk about the Tiktok? Yeah. Okay. Let's do that. And then we'll wrap up. 

[01:01:02] Radha: Okay. Yeah. I started e-commerce in October as mentioned, I started YouTube in March for a job shopping store.

My initial goal was to start, e-commerce have some side income, then start a job shipping channel to help people with business, grow that, start my personal, want to help people to move over there too, and then put out my music and my acting and get noticed in the industry for that. And I realized that's a little bit of a back and forth.

Like I should just start doing everything I want to do right away instead of like trying to take it step by step. So I started to, and I posted one or two tick talks before, just to figure out how the app works. Didn't really do much there. And then one day I just decided to start a brand new TikTok account, nothing on it.

And I saw somebody do a little bit of a trend, which was basically a prank. All the Rick roll. You tell people, oh my gosh, don't listen, listen to the sound. Something like you make it look like it's a different sound, but when they actually go and listen to it as a gasoline, then we're going to give you up.

If they listen to the sound you pranked them successfully. So since I was an actor, I thought I can do a much better job on this prank. And I started crying. That was basically the first time I've ever posted on that account. And that was a month ago on July 3rd. And that one wasn't recently it's at 9 million views.

At this point, the account gained like almost 30,000 followers in the one. And I'm excited because I really wanted to use that tic talk to put out my songs and my acting. So I feel like it kind of gave me that option now. So far, I've just been posting really stupid whole. Skits and stuff like that. A couple of trends, but yeah.

And that's where it's at. I don't know what else to say to it. Cause I'm still shocked that it's there. People calling me famous in the.

[01:02:59] Joseph: The, the, the things that platform is capable of. It's I, I have, uh, I have a hard time sleeping with that knowledge. Okay. Alright. Now we're done. Uh, and, uh, again, thank you for your time today. Uh, I was, I was really happy to, to meet you and have this conversation. So getting back to that question, uh, let us know, uh, where they can discover you online and, um, feel free to throw one more nugget of wisdom into the pot.

[01:03:25] Radha: Not necessarily a proverb, but the one thing I really want to say is always remember you have a choice in every situation it's, wherever you end up in life is based on your decisions and your choices. You can decide to make the easier choice that gets you results, or you can decide to make the harder choice that might.

Give you horrible results, but then you can almost turn them around, make them the best results yet. And my best course of advice is when you have to make a hard decision to make the choice that makes you the happiest overall, not just in the short term, but overall makes you to happiness. That's my piece of advice.

I guess it's very general, but I really think that's the most important thing I would point out right now. And then, yeah, what people can find me on YouTube. I have a channel pretty long name. It's called Radha homeless to six figures. I think if you just Google Radha drop shipping or Radha e-commerce Radha Shopify, you can probably find it.

I don't know if I can like give you a link. I can do that as well. Otherwise I just, I am just starting with a new flogging kind of channel on you too best. Just call rod up. But I'll probably link that to my business channel at some point as well. And then on TikTok, if you want to watch me do stupid skids and stuff that people apparently think is hilarious.

I don't know. My TikTok RadhaSongs one word RadhaSongs. And then on Instagram, I'm real.radha I need to find a way to match all of these handles at some point. But that though so often, right? 

[01:04:59] Joseph: Yeah. Not gonna lie. I saw the TikTok where, uh, it's uh, it's you responding to something Justin's going to be like, you want to say muddy on your twenties, just, uh, just don't go partying and face full of crisp.

But yeah, it was easy. It was pretty all right with that to my audience as always, it is an honor and a privilege to collect this information and yeah. Do I use it for my benefit of course. And then share it with all of you as well. So with that Radha, one more thank you for the road. Thanks for being here.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and your experience and to everybody else. Take care. We will check in soon.

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